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Does that mean people can't fast without violating the patent? How is that going to be enforced especially considering fasting is part of Islam, Hinduism, Jain

by anpk 10y ago

Does that mean people can't fast without violating the patent? How is that going to be enforced especially considering fasting is part of Islam, Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism?

nothrabannosir 10y ago
Somewhere in my innocent heart flickers the hope that patenting fasting wouldn't be possible even in a parallel universe where it's not part of Islam, Hinduism, Jainism or Buddhism...
- kpil 10y ago
  ...or Judaism and Christianity ?
iplaw 10y ago
I really wish more people knew how to read a patent. These knee-jerk (incorrect) reactions only serve to generate hysteria.
jasonkostempski 10y ago
If I'm not mistaken, you can make/do a patented thing as an individual all you want, you just can't commercialize it.
- intrasight 10y ago
  You are still infringing, but nobody is going to come after you unless you are doing commercial damage.
  - intrasight 10y ago
    At least in USA. See http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/crashcourse/rights/ http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/crashcourse/rights/
- hanginghyena 10y ago
  That seems very anti-competitive. So basically, if fasting is a free treatment for diabetes, you can't promote it without paying these guys a royalty? Boooooo
  - hayavuk 10y ago
    Isn't that generally applicable to patents?
  - ThrustVectoring 10y ago
    You can probably promote it and they won't care. They will care if you run a thing that you charge health insurance companies for.
    - hanginghyena 10y ago
      Right but that's where this gets ridiculous. Telling a patient to fast is basically a clinical practice. Almost like checking blood pressure. No actual supplies needed, just behavioral counseling. By the same logic, could I patent checking blood pressure?
hayavuk 10y ago
> Does that mean people can't fast without violating the patent? From the language, it would suggest that you'd have to administer this as a treatment for diabetes. And it's a very specific form of fasting, not fasting in general.

by anpk 10y ago

Does that mean people can't fast without violating the patent? How is that going to be enforced especially considering fasting is part of Islam, Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism?

nothrabannosir 10y ago

Somewhere in my innocent heart flickers the hope that patenting fasting wouldn't be possible even in a parallel universe where it's not part of Islam, Hinduism, Jainism or Buddhism...

kpil 10y ago
...or Judaism and Christianity ?

iplaw 10y ago

I really wish more people knew how to read a patent. These knee-jerk (incorrect) reactions only serve to generate hysteria.

jasonkostempski 10y ago

If I'm not mistaken, you can make/do a patented thing as an individual all you want, you just can't commercialize it.

intrasight 10y ago
You are still infringing, but nobody is going to come after you unless you are doing commercial damage.
- intrasight 10y ago
  At least in USA. See http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/crashcourse/rights/ http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/crashcourse/rights/
hanginghyena 10y ago
That seems very anti-competitive. So basically, if fasting is a free treatment for diabetes, you can't promote it without paying these guys a royalty? Boooooo
- hayavuk 10y ago
  Isn't that generally applicable to patents?
- ThrustVectoring 10y ago
  You can probably promote it and they won't care. They will care if you run a thing that you charge health insurance companies for.
  - hanginghyena 10y ago
    Right but that's where this gets ridiculous. Telling a patient to fast is basically a clinical practice. Almost like checking blood pressure. No actual supplies needed, just behavioral counseling. By the same logic, could I patent checking blood pressure?

hayavuk 10y ago

> Does that mean people can't fast without violating the patent? From the language, it would suggest that you'd have to administer this as a treatment for diabetes. And it's a very specific form of fasting, not fasting in general.