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>It could've been a word processor and it would still be terrible. Like vim or emacs? >window panes are very much a standardized UI part which has a completel

by astn 10y ago

>It could've been a word processor and it would still be terrible. Like vim or emacs? >window panes are very much a standardized UI part which has a completely non-standard interaction design in Blender. For no reason. It's called "tiled window management". Lots of people find it more comfortable to use than the classic overlapping windows.

oblio 10y ago
> It's called "tiled window management". Lots of people find it more comfortable to use than the classic overlapping windows. True, but when speaking about "lots", we have to keep in mind that tiled window management for the general public died together with Windows 1.0. That probably puts the percentage of the public who's ever used tiled window management around 0.001% of the total PC using population :)
- wolfgke 10y ago
  > True, but when speaking about "lots", we have to keep in mind that tiled window management for the general public died together with Windows 1.0. And came back with Windows 8 :-) > That probably puts the percentage of the public who's ever used tiled window management around 0.001% of the total PC using population :)
  - oblio 10y ago
    Well, the awesome success of Windows 8 kind of reinforces my point :-)
    - wolfgke 10y ago
      But the market share of Windows 8.1 is currently 8,40%. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share...
      - Pica_soO 10y ago
        Defenders of open source, rally around the OS-outcast - for he who is condemned by the public, may he be horrible and atrocious as can be, is our brethren in spirit. You know how bad it is, if Microsoft lowest-point is your high point.
gcp 10y ago
Like vim or emacs? Yes. There's reasons the popularity of those is waning. It's called "tiled window management". Lots of people find it more comfortable to use than the classic overlapping windows. It's got nothing to do with tiling. There's plenty of other software out there that's meant to be used with tiled windows. The interactions in Blender are unique to Blender, non-intuitive and non-discoverable.
- astn 10y ago
  > There's plenty of other software out there that's meant to be used with tiled windows. There is a tiling window manager INSIDE blender used to control its window frames. It works pretty much like any other tiling manager. You immediately grasp the idea if you've ever used one.

by astn 10y ago

oblio 10y ago

> It's called "tiled window management". Lots of people find it more comfortable to use than the classic overlapping windows. True, but when speaking about "lots", we have to keep in mind that tiled window management for the general public died together with Windows 1.0. That probably puts the percentage of the public who's ever used tiled window management around 0.001% of the total PC using population :)

wolfgke 10y ago
> True, but when speaking about "lots", we have to keep in mind that tiled window management for the general public died together with Windows 1.0. And came back with Windows 8 :-) > That probably puts the percentage of the public who's ever used tiled window management around 0.001% of the total PC using population :)
- oblio 10y ago
  Well, the awesome success of Windows 8 kind of reinforces my point :-)
  - wolfgke 10y ago
    But the market share of Windows 8.1 is currently 8,40%. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share...
    - Pica_soO 10y ago
      Defenders of open source, rally around the OS-outcast - for he who is condemned by the public, may he be horrible and atrocious as can be, is our brethren in spirit. You know how bad it is, if Microsoft lowest-point is your high point.

gcp 10y ago

Like vim or emacs? Yes. There's reasons the popularity of those is waning. It's called "tiled window management". Lots of people find it more comfortable to use than the classic overlapping windows. It's got nothing to do with tiling. There's plenty of other software out there that's meant to be used with tiled windows. The interactions in Blender are unique to Blender, non-intuitive and non-discoverable.

astn 10y ago
> There's plenty of other software out there that's meant to be used with tiled windows. There is a tiling window manager INSIDE blender used to control its window frames. It works pretty much like any other tiling manager. You immediately grasp the idea if you've ever used one.