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It's not. It just helps Latinos find jobs easier. There are a ton of sites for female in tech and no one complains.

• jimmywanger 10y ago
  Everyone complains. If you're a white or asian male you get absolutely no help with getting hired in tech, getting trained for tech jobs, etc etc. And by starting a list of companies that hire Latinos, you're implying all other companies don't hire Latinos. I cannot think of a single company who openly discriminates against Latinos, so it's a false premise. It's not like Jim Crow days, where you'd maintain lists of restaurants who would serve black customers. And the statement "If you are excited working with Latinos" is horrible. I'm excited working with anybody who is competent, easy to get along with, and can teach me things. Why would you be specifically excited about working with Latinos?
  • wwweston 10y ago
    > Everyone complains. If you're a white or asian male you get absolutely no help with getting hired in tech, getting trained for tech jobs, etc etc. The argument goes that if you fall into one of those groups, you are generally helped by being what a lot of people think someone in that role should look like, at a minimum unconsciously and in some cases consciously. It's not a full articulation of the dynamic behind people's backgrounds and what happens in a hiring process, and so it might not be the best idea to orient initiatives/activism entirely around that, but it's a pretty reasonable point of view.
    • ebfe 10y ago
      >you are generally helped... They're not necessarily wrong, either. I'm responsible for hiring decisions, and whenever possible I prefer to go with white and Asian men because 1. I know their accomplishments are the result of their own ability rather than hand-holding, and 2. if things go sour, they're not going to sue me. Obviously few women or PoC do those things, but with a white/Asian guy you remove the risk entirely.
      • pessimizer 10y ago
        It's good that you admit this in public, and validating for women and minorities who are never sure if they weren't hired because they weren't good enough, or because the person doing the hiring was proudly racist or sexist.
        • jimmywanger 10y ago
          > because they weren't good enough, or because the person doing the hiring was proudly racist or sexist. Or because diversity initiatives have poisoned the hiring process/pool to such a degree that you have to be careful about the very people whose hiring you're supposed to encourage?
    • jimmywanger 10y ago
      > The argument goes that if you fall into one of those groups, you are generally helped by being what a lot of people think someone in that role should look like, at a minimum unconsciously and in some cases consciously. That applies to every single occupation on earth. For instance, it is very unlikely that I will be hired as an English teacher, even though I speak perfect english and grew up in the states. It's just funny that people want to practice selective diversity. "Hey we want clean high paying tech jobs! But we also don't want to encourage women to become sewage cleaners because those jobs aren't cool. What about the diversity in basketball, both college and pro? Shouldn't there be boot camps targeting asian males to increase diversity on campus?"
  • logiccheck 10y ago
    https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
• placeybordeaux 10y ago
  I personally don't find either of them offensive and won't complain about either of them, but I do find them discriminatory. You and I apperently have a different definition of discriminatory. I personally find wikipedia's definition close to mine: "discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit." If you are just posting jobs that explicitly are welcoming of latino candidates then it's not discriminatory, but if you encourage only latinos to apply to said jobs then it is. (at least in my mind).
  • vsergiu 10y ago
    I am posting jobs that welcome latinos and/or anyone else who is competent.
    • placeybordeaux 10y ago
      Fair enough, that doesn't sound discriminatory to me (not that you need my permission). Good luck!