6 ms·

"My iPad has no 3G, therefore it has no GPS. But applications were constantly asking me for permission to use my location. This seems like an oversight: if you

"My iPad has no 3G, therefore it has no GPS. But applications were constantly asking me for permission to use my location. This seems like an oversight: if you don't have a location sensor, don't ask! Even the built-in Map app asked me for information that it could not possibly have." Uh, ever hear of Skyhook?

gr366 16y ago
I posted a nearly duplicate comment (now deleted). My iPad has successfully located me in the Maps application in several different places. It's actually quite accurate.
- stcredzero 16y ago
  Accurate and fast! I had location services turned off because it's slow on the iPhone 2G. I just fired off Maps, hit the crosshairs, and ZAP. It was right there. 3 seconds later, it corrected by 30 feet. Right on the money!
  - ugh 16y ago
    There also seems to be some caching going on. The maps application in my iPod touch could track me accurately when walking around the city – with Wifi turned off. It seems to download the locations of all the Wifi routers in your area as soon as you have a internet connection, when you lose that connection it can still find out where you are (it needs only the MAC addresses). Nice feature, pretty useless, though.
    - gojomo 16y ago
      I ran a test this morning, running the Google Maps application as I traveled to work. Wifi-only geolocation continued to accurately position me to the nearest intersection for about 3 city blocks after I left my home access point (and without connecting to any other access points for network access). So it's got a cache of nearby access points it can use for positioning even without a network connection. About 4 blocks away, it mistakenly placed me on a hillside 4 blocks in the opposite direction from my starting point -- but the local topography makes it very possible it caught a momentary signal from a faraway access point still in its cache. From that point on, it provided no additional updates to my location -- even though I was following a 'directions' route previously called up, stepped through, and zoomed-on. From this I conclude: it precaches Wifi points near where you are when initially using location, but not along planned paths or all map areas viewed.
      - trjordan 16y ago
        The Wifi doesn't have to connect to know where you are. I'm pretty sure it's not doing anything fancy like caching -- it's just occasionally looking at available wireless routers and locating from their broadcast.
      - smokey_the_bear 16y ago
        Sometimes the location manager will also just report the billing address of your credit card if all else fails. And hey, a stopped clock is right twice a day.

gr366 16y ago

I posted a nearly duplicate comment (now deleted). My iPad has successfully located me in the Maps application in several different places. It's actually quite accurate.

stcredzero 16y ago
Accurate and fast! I had location services turned off because it's slow on the iPhone 2G. I just fired off Maps, hit the crosshairs, and ZAP. It was right there. 3 seconds later, it corrected by 30 feet. Right on the money!
- ugh 16y ago
  There also seems to be some caching going on. The maps application in my iPod touch could track me accurately when walking around the city – with Wifi turned off. It seems to download the locations of all the Wifi routers in your area as soon as you have a internet connection, when you lose that connection it can still find out where you are (it needs only the MAC addresses). Nice feature, pretty useless, though.
  - gojomo 16y ago
    I ran a test this morning, running the Google Maps application as I traveled to work. Wifi-only geolocation continued to accurately position me to the nearest intersection for about 3 city blocks after I left my home access point (and without connecting to any other access points for network access). So it's got a cache of nearby access points it can use for positioning even without a network connection. About 4 blocks away, it mistakenly placed me on a hillside 4 blocks in the opposite direction from my starting point -- but the local topography makes it very possible it caught a momentary signal from a faraway access point still in its cache. From that point on, it provided no additional updates to my location -- even though I was following a 'directions' route previously called up, stepped through, and zoomed-on. From this I conclude: it precaches Wifi points near where you are when initially using location, but not along planned paths or all map areas viewed.
    - trjordan 16y ago
      The Wifi doesn't have to connect to know where you are. I'm pretty sure it's not doing anything fancy like caching -- it's just occasionally looking at available wireless routers and locating from their broadcast.
    - smokey_the_bear 16y ago
      Sometimes the location manager will also just report the billing address of your credit card if all else fails. And hey, a stopped clock is right twice a day.