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Wagon Acquired by Box

59 points by clayallsopp 10y ago

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samdalton 10y ago
Another great and innovative app thrown into the dust from an acquisition. They actually made working with SQL a joy.
- papa_bear 10y ago
  Yeah I'm pretty bummed about this. Are there any similar locally-run apps that make it easy to get graphs from your SQL queries? I've seen a few SaaS apps like Periscope that do similar, but I'm not a fan of letting other companies load up our entire database just to make some graphs.
  - colinbartlett 10y ago
    I'm a big fan of Looker[1]. It's one of the best BI tools I've used and it lets you work with SQL but abstracts away much of the minutiae of writing it. It's an enterprise SaaS app, although they do allow you to self host. For side projects and such I use Metabase[2] which is open source and pretty useful for giving business users access to query data. Its visualizations are rudimentary but workable. 1. https://looker.com https://looker.com 2. https://github.com/metabase/metabase https://github.com/metabase/metabase
  - proksoup 10y ago
    DBvisualizer ... A Java app but it does that job pretty okay.
  - jesalg 10y ago
    I second Metabase recommendation. Like the fact that it's OSS.
  - avdempsey 10y ago
    You might check out Redash or Caravel. They're both open source, you host them yourself, and have a bunch of dashboard and access control functionality. Caravel in particular has some great exploration tools. You can build queries either by hand or by using visualization specific drag and drop. Caravel is getting regular updates from the AirBnB team too. If you want more power I recommend using a Jupyter notebook and Python. There's also Rodeo which is like R Studio for Python.
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  Yup. Just submitted it to http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com
RexM 10y ago
I found out about wagon 2 hours ago and was playing with it a bit today. For me, that was very short lived, but their application did actually seem nice. What a bummer.
ryanj20021 10y ago
Was a great product and team
- scapecast 10y ago
  Indeed. They got $2M in funding - must have run out of money and not been able to secure follow-up funding. Unfortunate.
xorgar831 10y ago
what is wagon?
- guessmyname 10y ago
  It used to be (or still is inside Box?) an analytics startup [1][2][3]. EDIT: Their Twitter account also gives a little bit of information: Wagon is a modern SQL editor. A better way for analysts and engineers to write queries, visualize results, and share data & charts [4]. [1] https://www.wagonhq.com/about https://www.wagonhq.com/about [2] https://www.wagonhq.com/blog/engineering-at-wagon/ https://www.wagonhq.com/blog/engineering-at-wagon/ [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/37jwip/a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/37jwip/a/ [4] https://twitter.com/WagonHQ https://twitter.com/WagonHQ
- fgasparini 10y ago
  It is(was) a company and its main product was a SQL client with built-in visualizations and features to save queries (just the query not the RS) in their cloud and share these queries with others peers in your organization. In my opinion it was a very good product... Sad that they didn't open sourced it. =/
dkarapetyan 10y ago
What I don't get is how dropbox fell behind in this enterprise storage game. Box was a terrible product, buggy UI and all. Dropbox was a joy to use and yet somehow Box seems to be leading in the enterprise market. I don't quite get it.
- frisco 10y ago
  Enterprise sales! Enterprise is a completely different beast than consumer. Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. The language, practices and culture necessary to do well at selling to large enterprises and all of the differences in the underlying company are so different than consumer products. Enterprise is very misunderstood, even by many VCs!
  - ljoshua 10y ago
    > Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. Wow, now I know that's just anecdotal, but that feels about right, and very interesting to have written down. Thanks for that, it's good food for thought. (Now I'm just wondering what the last 10% is... ;) )
    - daurnimator 10y ago
      inertia
    - robbyt 10y ago
      5% steak 5% strippers
  - karim 10y ago
    Which begs the question: what are the remaining 10%?
    - terryf 10y ago
      See, these are exactly the kind of questions that will not get you ay enterprise sales ;) /sarcasm
infinite8s 10y ago
Question for any users out there - was the valuable part of Wagon the querying/graphing capability, or the sharing part? I've been building a cross-platform desktop app (using Qt) that is basically a SQL querying tool for data analysts instead of developers (with a focus on analyzing data instead of being able to modify data). I've been trying to figure out how to price it and was a bit discouraged when I found Wagon (how do you compete with free)? Also it's tougher to do sharing of interactive charts with a desktop product (although I have ideas for being able to post static annotated charts into slack or other popular SAAS products).
- awaxman11 10y ago
  Huge Wagon fan. Very sad to see it go. I loved both the sharing functionality (shared folders + being able to easily share a link) and graphing capabilities. If I had to pick one over the other I'd probably pick the graphing capabilities. Would love for you to replicate Wagon :) I'd be happy to pay $5-10 / month to continue to use Wagon past October
- rezistik 10y ago
  Competing with free is really easy when things like this happen. There is a simple question to determine your relationship to a company or product, are you the customer or the product. Did you pay for it? If no, you're the product and they can arbitrarily change the rules of the game. If yes, yay you.
saadatq 10y ago
Happy for the team at Wagon, but sad to see this. Was actually starting to enjoy using Wagon as a SQL client. This was inevitable, though - the Wagon team didn't seem too concerned about trying to find a way to monetize the app.
mrmch 10y ago
Is Textur (https://www.textur.com/ https://www.textur.com/) an alternative to Wagon?
numlocked 10y ago
Wagon is also interesting for being a Haskell shop. One of the few Haskell start-ups I'm aware of. Super nice bunch of folks.
vgt 10y ago
Congrats WagonHQ folks!
masonhooten 10y ago
periscope data is great for sql visualizations. Way faster than any in house open source database plus priced affordably for any company larger than 10 people.
cycomachead 10y ago
Count me as another sad user...I started using it towards the end of writing my MS thesis, and was bummed to not know of it sooner. The sharing was definitely a good feature, but the overall experience felt thought out, and was enjoyable!
SteveBash 10y ago
I was waiting for their Linux client.. I liked the charts and the feature to export them, anyway it was an awesome app with a great UX, really sad to see that go.

59 points by clayallsopp 10y ago

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samdalton 10y ago

Another great and innovative app thrown into the dust from an acquisition. They actually made working with SQL a joy.

papa_bear 10y ago
Yeah I'm pretty bummed about this. Are there any similar locally-run apps that make it easy to get graphs from your SQL queries? I've seen a few SaaS apps like Periscope that do similar, but I'm not a fan of letting other companies load up our entire database just to make some graphs.
- colinbartlett 10y ago
  I'm a big fan of Looker[1]. It's one of the best BI tools I've used and it lets you work with SQL but abstracts away much of the minutiae of writing it. It's an enterprise SaaS app, although they do allow you to self host. For side projects and such I use Metabase[2] which is open source and pretty useful for giving business users access to query data. Its visualizations are rudimentary but workable. 1. https://looker.com https://looker.com 2. https://github.com/metabase/metabase https://github.com/metabase/metabase
- proksoup 10y ago
  DBvisualizer ... A Java app but it does that job pretty okay.
- jesalg 10y ago
  I second Metabase recommendation. Like the fact that it's OSS.
- avdempsey 10y ago
  You might check out Redash or Caravel. They're both open source, you host them yourself, and have a bunch of dashboard and access control functionality. Caravel in particular has some great exploration tools. You can build queries either by hand or by using visualization specific drag and drop. Caravel is getting regular updates from the AirBnB team too. If you want more power I recommend using a Jupyter notebook and Python. There's also Rodeo which is like R Studio for Python.
ocdtrekkie 10y ago
Yup. Just submitted it to http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com

RexM 10y ago

I found out about wagon 2 hours ago and was playing with it a bit today. For me, that was very short lived, but their application did actually seem nice. What a bummer.

ryanj20021 10y ago

Was a great product and team

scapecast 10y ago
Indeed. They got $2M in funding - must have run out of money and not been able to secure follow-up funding. Unfortunate.

xorgar831 10y ago

what is wagon?

guessmyname 10y ago
It used to be (or still is inside Box?) an analytics startup [1][2][3]. EDIT: Their Twitter account also gives a little bit of information: Wagon is a modern SQL editor. A better way for analysts and engineers to write queries, visualize results, and share data & charts [4]. [1] https://www.wagonhq.com/about https://www.wagonhq.com/about [2] https://www.wagonhq.com/blog/engineering-at-wagon/ https://www.wagonhq.com/blog/engineering-at-wagon/ [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/37jwip/a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/37jwip/a/ [4] https://twitter.com/WagonHQ https://twitter.com/WagonHQ
fgasparini 10y ago
It is(was) a company and its main product was a SQL client with built-in visualizations and features to save queries (just the query not the RS) in their cloud and share these queries with others peers in your organization. In my opinion it was a very good product... Sad that they didn't open sourced it. =/

dkarapetyan 10y ago

What I don't get is how dropbox fell behind in this enterprise storage game. Box was a terrible product, buggy UI and all. Dropbox was a joy to use and yet somehow Box seems to be leading in the enterprise market. I don't quite get it.

frisco 10y ago
Enterprise sales! Enterprise is a completely different beast than consumer. Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. The language, practices and culture necessary to do well at selling to large enterprises and all of the differences in the underlying company are so different than consumer products. Enterprise is very misunderstood, even by many VCs!
- ljoshua 10y ago
  > Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. Wow, now I know that's just anecdotal, but that feels about right, and very interesting to have written down. Thanks for that, it's good food for thought. (Now I'm just wondering what the last 10% is... ;) )
  - daurnimator 10y ago
    inertia
  - robbyt 10y ago
    5% steak 5% strippers
- karim 10y ago
  Which begs the question: what are the remaining 10%?
  - terryf 10y ago
    See, these are exactly the kind of questions that will not get you ay enterprise sales ;) /sarcasm

infinite8s 10y ago

Question for any users out there - was the valuable part of Wagon the querying/graphing capability, or the sharing part? I've been building a cross-platform desktop app (using Qt) that is basically a SQL querying tool for data analysts instead of developers (with a focus on analyzing data instead of being able to modify data). I've been trying to figure out how to price it and was a bit discouraged when I found Wagon (how do you compete with free)? Also it's tougher to do sharing of interactive charts with a desktop product (although I have ideas for being able to post static annotated charts into slack or other popular SAAS products).

awaxman11 10y ago
Huge Wagon fan. Very sad to see it go. I loved both the sharing functionality (shared folders + being able to easily share a link) and graphing capabilities. If I had to pick one over the other I'd probably pick the graphing capabilities. Would love for you to replicate Wagon :) I'd be happy to pay $5-10 / month to continue to use Wagon past October
rezistik 10y ago
Competing with free is really easy when things like this happen. There is a simple question to determine your relationship to a company or product, are you the customer or the product. Did you pay for it? If no, you're the product and they can arbitrarily change the rules of the game. If yes, yay you.

saadatq 10y ago

Happy for the team at Wagon, but sad to see this. Was actually starting to enjoy using Wagon as a SQL client. This was inevitable, though - the Wagon team didn't seem too concerned about trying to find a way to monetize the app.

mrmch 10y ago

Is Textur (https://www.textur.com/ https://www.textur.com/) an alternative to Wagon?

numlocked 10y ago

Wagon is also interesting for being a Haskell shop. One of the few Haskell start-ups I'm aware of. Super nice bunch of folks.

vgt 10y ago

Congrats WagonHQ folks!

masonhooten 10y ago

periscope data is great for sql visualizations. Way faster than any in house open source database plus priced affordably for any company larger than 10 people.

cycomachead 10y ago

Count me as another sad user...I started using it towards the end of writing my MS thesis, and was bummed to not know of it sooner. The sharing was definitely a good feature, but the overall experience felt thought out, and was enjoyable!

SteveBash 10y ago

I was waiting for their Linux client.. I liked the charts and the feature to export them, anyway it was an awesome app with a great UX, really sad to see that go.