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Yep. Looks like it's now called "1for.one". Their CEO has a stock photo on LinkedIn and owned a mining corp.

by bvanslyke 10y ago

lemonghost 10y ago
I think 1for.one is the old name, then they changed it to jobsonic and, more recently, to wrkriot.com.
- ramblenode 10y ago
  Wow, the author's description "anti-SEO name" doesn't quite do these justice. "1for.one" is cringey but "wrkriot.com" is just straight VC repellent.
  - ChristopherE 10y ago
    Not disputing you, but why is WrkRiot so repellent? It's unique and recognizable. I'll admit that "Riot" is just weird, but is that the main reason? (not trolling, I'm serious)
    - ramblenode 10y ago
      This is just pure opinion, but to me it is hard to read and unprofessional. It is certainly unique, but it doesn't project seriousness, which is what I want out of a job discovery service. Omitting the vowel just has the ring of a shady knockoff, scammer, or malware site that capitalizes on typos. Maybe I'm just not used to seeing the consonant string in trademarks or company names, but it strikes me as peculiar rather than creative or edgy. Second thought: this is a company which can't even manage to register "workriot.com". Even if "WrkRiot" is the brand, I would expect them to grab the domain with the more obvious spelling and have it redirect to wrkriot, but it turns out "workriot.com" is registered to a Finnish hosting provider sitting on the domain. So to recap: the domain with the more obvious alternate spelling of the company is (very likely) up for sale but they still haven't managed to acquire it. That does not engender much confidence in their marketing or management. Yes, I think I would pass on this venture.
    - blackflame7000 10y ago
      Because misspelling your name, while quirky, doesn't exactly express professionalism.
      - st3v3r 10y ago
        Flickr?
    - tedmiston 10y ago
      In general misspellings are considered bad for SEO because search engines suggest correcting their name to something else. I'm not sure whether that applies here but I have seen it for startups that vowel drop weirdly, etc.
      - laur624 10y ago
        Thank you for the SEO-specific reply. I was curious about that aspect, opinions on professionalism aside.
- AMC4x4 10y ago
  Yep. If you look on LinkedIn, you'll see most of the employees for JobSonic actually haven't updated their LinkedIn profiles. They still say 1for.one.
- ChristopherE 10y ago
  I've looked at a bunch of things and you're correct. the 1for.one precedes jobsonic. Basically just this summer it's had 3 separate names.
patwalls 10y ago
And analyst at JP Morgan...
pluma 10y ago
*WrkRiot. 1forOne's twitter and facebook profiles are gone and WrkRiot matches the description perfectly (including the doggy avatar and a large number of Asian employees). It's actually dangerously obvious who some of the people mentioned in the story are, just from the descriptions. It might be a good idea to anonymize characters further by changing ethnicity/nationality and gender.
- StavrosK 10y ago
  Why? Shouldn't we be encouraging people who out bad actors?
  - pluma 10y ago
    "Name and shame" feels good but there's a huge danger in pillorying people just based on a single person's account. WrkRiot seems to be the company in question and their online presence is so laughable nobody here likely feels bad for making fun of them, especially because of the behaviour the author describes. But the story is not just about a company but also about individuals. Consider WrkRiot's head of marketing, for example. The author portrays her very negatively (outright trying to take the author's credit, being generally incompetent and engaging in deceptive and hostile practices). Whether you personally find the author trustworthy or not, if you only go by the article this is essentially hearsay. Whether the allegations are true or not, she might face problems because of them (e.g. when trying to apply to new jobs). The author OTOH can maintain plausible deniability because the article never explicitly named any names (just gave enough identifying information to allow HNers to deduct the identity of the company and the employees). I'm not saying the author is lying. I'm not saying WrkRiot or its CEO is innocent. I'm just saying there's no way to know as an outside how much of the story is true and what details have been left out (knowingly or not). This is why in criminal investigations "due process" is a thing. Otherwise you end up with mob rule and character assassination -- and accusations tend to stick even if they're proven wrong and malicious.
    - threatofrain 10y ago
      It should be noted that the criminal justice system is not there to give justice to individuals. The district attorney functions as the representative of state interests. If you are a victim of medical malpractice, the district attorney will not find healing for you. If someone wrongfully injures you, a criminal case will not return even an inch of your wholesomeness. If someone cheats or robs you of $50k, the district attorney will not help you pay your bills. Civil court is the provided forum for issues of individual justice, and there individuals will find themselves paying alone, and in a position of imbalance, only a stupid person would fight for themselves. In the game of civil justice, where one might seek healing or remedy, you must pay for the prerogative to play.
funkyy 10y ago
The website doesn't look like anything that would come out from a team of developers/designer. It looks like one man side project really...
- lugg 10y ago
  The pixelation on those step headers made me cry a little on the inside.
- snsr 10y ago
  It's profoundly terrible.
0xmohit 10y ago
Amusingly the `whois` records for wrkroit.com mention 1FOR.ONE CORPORATION as the registrant organization. Here is a snippet of the records: Domain Name: WRKRIOT.COM Creation Date: 25-aug-2016 Registrant Name: ISAAC CHOI Registrant Organization: 1FOR.ONE CORPORATION Registrant Street: 2005 DE LA CRUZ BLVD Registrant Street: SUITE 131 Registrant City: SANTA CLARA Registrant State/Province: CA Registrant Postal Code: 95050 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.4083447484 Registrant Email: MYSUBS@HALLFORONE.COM

Yep. Looks like it's now called "1for.one". Their CEO has a stock photo on LinkedIn and owned a mining corp.

lemonghost 10y ago

I think 1for.one is the old name, then they changed it to jobsonic and, more recently, to wrkriot.com.

ramblenode 10y ago
Wow, the author's description "anti-SEO name" doesn't quite do these justice. "1for.one" is cringey but "wrkriot.com" is just straight VC repellent.
- ChristopherE 10y ago
  Not disputing you, but why is WrkRiot so repellent? It's unique and recognizable. I'll admit that "Riot" is just weird, but is that the main reason? (not trolling, I'm serious)
  - ramblenode 10y ago
    This is just pure opinion, but to me it is hard to read and unprofessional. It is certainly unique, but it doesn't project seriousness, which is what I want out of a job discovery service. Omitting the vowel just has the ring of a shady knockoff, scammer, or malware site that capitalizes on typos. Maybe I'm just not used to seeing the consonant string in trademarks or company names, but it strikes me as peculiar rather than creative or edgy. Second thought: this is a company which can't even manage to register "workriot.com". Even if "WrkRiot" is the brand, I would expect them to grab the domain with the more obvious spelling and have it redirect to wrkriot, but it turns out "workriot.com" is registered to a Finnish hosting provider sitting on the domain. So to recap: the domain with the more obvious alternate spelling of the company is (very likely) up for sale but they still haven't managed to acquire it. That does not engender much confidence in their marketing or management. Yes, I think I would pass on this venture.
  - blackflame7000 10y ago
    Because misspelling your name, while quirky, doesn't exactly express professionalism.
    - st3v3r 10y ago
      Flickr?
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    In general misspellings are considered bad for SEO because search engines suggest correcting their name to something else. I'm not sure whether that applies here but I have seen it for startups that vowel drop weirdly, etc.
    - laur624 10y ago
      Thank you for the SEO-specific reply. I was curious about that aspect, opinions on professionalism aside.
AMC4x4 10y ago
Yep. If you look on LinkedIn, you'll see most of the employees for JobSonic actually haven't updated their LinkedIn profiles. They still say 1for.one.
ChristopherE 10y ago
I've looked at a bunch of things and you're correct. the 1for.one precedes jobsonic. Basically just this summer it's had 3 separate names.

patwalls 10y ago

And analyst at JP Morgan...

pluma 10y ago

*WrkRiot. 1forOne's twitter and facebook profiles are gone and WrkRiot matches the description perfectly (including the doggy avatar and a large number of Asian employees). It's actually dangerously obvious who some of the people mentioned in the story are, just from the descriptions. It might be a good idea to anonymize characters further by changing ethnicity/nationality and gender.

StavrosK 10y ago
Why? Shouldn't we be encouraging people who out bad actors?
- pluma 10y ago
  "Name and shame" feels good but there's a huge danger in pillorying people just based on a single person's account. WrkRiot seems to be the company in question and their online presence is so laughable nobody here likely feels bad for making fun of them, especially because of the behaviour the author describes. But the story is not just about a company but also about individuals. Consider WrkRiot's head of marketing, for example. The author portrays her very negatively (outright trying to take the author's credit, being generally incompetent and engaging in deceptive and hostile practices). Whether you personally find the author trustworthy or not, if you only go by the article this is essentially hearsay. Whether the allegations are true or not, she might face problems because of them (e.g. when trying to apply to new jobs). The author OTOH can maintain plausible deniability because the article never explicitly named any names (just gave enough identifying information to allow HNers to deduct the identity of the company and the employees). I'm not saying the author is lying. I'm not saying WrkRiot or its CEO is innocent. I'm just saying there's no way to know as an outside how much of the story is true and what details have been left out (knowingly or not). This is why in criminal investigations "due process" is a thing. Otherwise you end up with mob rule and character assassination -- and accusations tend to stick even if they're proven wrong and malicious.
  - threatofrain 10y ago
    It should be noted that the criminal justice system is not there to give justice to individuals. The district attorney functions as the representative of state interests. If you are a victim of medical malpractice, the district attorney will not find healing for you. If someone wrongfully injures you, a criminal case will not return even an inch of your wholesomeness. If someone cheats or robs you of $50k, the district attorney will not help you pay your bills. Civil court is the provided forum for issues of individual justice, and there individuals will find themselves paying alone, and in a position of imbalance, only a stupid person would fight for themselves. In the game of civil justice, where one might seek healing or remedy, you must pay for the prerogative to play.

funkyy 10y ago

The website doesn't look like anything that would come out from a team of developers/designer. It looks like one man side project really...

lugg 10y ago
The pixelation on those step headers made me cry a little on the inside.
snsr 10y ago
It's profoundly terrible.

0xmohit 10y ago

Amusingly the `whois` records for wrkroit.com mention 1FOR.ONE CORPORATION as the registrant organization. Here is a snippet of the records: Domain Name: WRKRIOT.COM Creation Date: 25-aug-2016 Registrant Name: ISAAC CHOI Registrant Organization: 1FOR.ONE CORPORATION Registrant Street: 2005 DE LA CRUZ BLVD Registrant Street: SUITE 131 Registrant City: SANTA CLARA Registrant State/Province: CA Registrant Postal Code: 95050 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.4083447484 Registrant Email: MYSUBS@HALLFORONE.COM