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How a GIF of Aly Raisman's Floor Routine Got Me Permanently Banned from Twitter

26 points by arash_milani 10y ago

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minimaxir 10y ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12356098 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12356098
mcherm 10y ago
Not only is it ridiculous to permanently ban someone from the platform with 3 minutes notice for copyright violation, this ALSO isn't copyright violation! In the US (I don't know enough about other jurisdictions) this would almost certainly qualify as Fair Use and therefore NOT a copyright violation. So Twitter is permanently banning people with 3 minutes notice for a first offense of OBEYING the laws (but apparently still pissing off the IOC). Reversing the ban of this person once the story became widely discussed is NOT an excuse, unless Twitter is also reviewing all other bans.
adolph 10y ago
Gotta love the naivety of the post's comment "don't post other's IP." If only life were so simple. One might advocate a conservative position that anything not made by oneself shouldn't be posted. What a culturally impoverished world that would be! You can watch the competitive human activity on the activity organizer's chosen public performance medium but it isn't a good idea to communicate about it--you might be banned for offending someone and not be able to communicate anymore. I suppose there's a balance between stuff to be shared and to not and in the middle there be DCMA take-downs and complaints.
Flimm 10y ago
I can't read this without logging in, even if I get there through a Google SERP. I'm flagging this because of that, I don't know if that's valid or not.
- kzisme 10y ago
  For what it's worth I was able to read it without logging in.
Aloha 10y ago
This really should be considered fair use, as they were creating commentary about the floor routine. If anything sharing a short clip of an Olympic performance may increase the value to the rights holder, by driving more traffic to them.
ryandrake 10y ago
I wonder how much of the whole ordeal was entirely human-free automation. IOC web-bots web-crawling looking for content. IOC legal-bots generating millions of form E-mails "attesting to" the same thing. Twitter email-bots receiving these and auto-flagging accounts, and Twitter legal-bots generating identical "I ban you!" form letters. We've created SkyNet without missiles.

26 points by arash_milani 10y ago

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minimaxir 10y ago

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12356098 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12356098

mcherm 10y ago

Not only is it ridiculous to permanently ban someone from the platform with 3 minutes notice for copyright violation, this ALSO isn't copyright violation! In the US (I don't know enough about other jurisdictions) this would almost certainly qualify as Fair Use and therefore NOT a copyright violation. So Twitter is permanently banning people with 3 minutes notice for a first offense of OBEYING the laws (but apparently still pissing off the IOC). Reversing the ban of this person once the story became widely discussed is NOT an excuse, unless Twitter is also reviewing all other bans.

adolph 10y ago

Gotta love the naivety of the post's comment "don't post other's IP." If only life were so simple. One might advocate a conservative position that anything not made by oneself shouldn't be posted. What a culturally impoverished world that would be! You can watch the competitive human activity on the activity organizer's chosen public performance medium but it isn't a good idea to communicate about it--you might be banned for offending someone and not be able to communicate anymore. I suppose there's a balance between stuff to be shared and to not and in the middle there be DCMA take-downs and complaints.

Flimm 10y ago

I can't read this without logging in, even if I get there through a Google SERP. I'm flagging this because of that, I don't know if that's valid or not.

kzisme 10y ago
For what it's worth I was able to read it without logging in.

Aloha 10y ago

This really should be considered fair use, as they were creating commentary about the floor routine. If anything sharing a short clip of an Olympic performance may increase the value to the rights holder, by driving more traffic to them.

ryandrake 10y ago

I wonder how much of the whole ordeal was entirely human-free automation. IOC web-bots web-crawling looking for content. IOC legal-bots generating millions of form E-mails "attesting to" the same thing. Twitter email-bots receiving these and auto-flagging accounts, and Twitter legal-bots generating identical "I ban you!" form letters. We've created SkyNet without missiles.