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Just buy Raspberry Pi 3 and you will have 64-bit ARM desktop hardware...
by markokrajnc 10y ago
Just buy Raspberry Pi 3 and you will have 64-bit ARM desktop hardware...
- Nullabillity 10y agoDoes any software actually enable the 64-bit mode yet?
- Zigurd 10y agoNot end-user usable software, as far as I can tell. It appears that some people have built 64 bit kernels but with many features broken or missing.
- markokrajnc 10y agoUltibo may soon be working in 64-bit mode: https://ultibo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60 https://ultibo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60
- protomyth 10y agoI finally saw a retail package in an actual store right next to the drones. Quite a selection of packages (e.g. bare, complete, etc.) too. It is one of those, "I know what those are" purchases since there was no support material (signs, books, software) around them.
- choudanu4 10y agoThe raspberry pi 3 only runs in 32-bit mode right now [1]. There is no 64-bit kernel for it currently. [1]: https://www.linux.com/news/raspberry-pi-3-still-essentially-32-bit-sbc-now https://www.linux.com/news/raspberry-pi-3-still-essentially-...
- markokrajnc 10y agoThe raspberry pi 3 runs in 32 and 64 mode. There is no >>LINUX<< 64-bit kernel for it currently...
- vetinari 10y agoExactly which OS runs on rpi3 in 64-bit mode? Because Windows 10 and RiscOS ain't it.
- markokrajnc 10y agoAuthor is asking for 64-bit ARM hardware, not software...
- vetinari 10y agoYou, however, were claiming, that rpi3 does run in 64-bit mode, just not with linux: > The raspberry pi 3 runs in 32 and 64 mode. There is no >>LINUX<< 64-bit kernel for it currently... To my knowledge, rpi3 has 64-bit CPU, but all operating systems and bootloaders available run only in 32-bit mode, no exceptions. That means that rpi3 in future theoretically can run in 64-bit mode, but certainly does not today.
- markokrajnc 10y agoYou are claiming that you know >>all<< operating systems and bootloaders and that >>all<< run only in 32-bit mode - with no exceptions... a big claim about your knowledge... So you know even all non-public bootloaders and OS-es...
- rasz_pl 10y agoPee bootloader runs on the gpu, so that doesnt matter much. Current bootloader can bootstrap ARM in 64bit mode, as is evidenced by freebsd port and https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=137963 https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1379... (all but the gpu works)
- geococcyxc 10y agoHave not tried this myself, but it seems like FreeBSD does: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11226386 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11226386
- picken_001 10y agoThis information is out-of-date. See: https://www.kraxel.org/blog/2016/04/fedora-on-raspberry-pi-updates/ https://www.kraxel.org/blog/2016/04/fedora-on-raspberry-pi-u...
- drudru11 10y agoWhoa - really - this is interesting. Why did they do this? Memory too constrained?
- Nullabillity 10y agoMy understanding was that the limited memory meant that it wouldn't be very useful, and they wanted to make sure that software for the earlier Pis would still be 100% compatible, and vice versa.
- jdub 10y agoIt's not developer class desktop hardware, at least for native code. Good for all kinds of things, but doesn't satisfy what the author is looking for.
- theandrewbailey 10y agoThe author is looking for something that can replace a conventional x86 based desktop. You can't plug SATA disks directly into a Pi (or boot from them), you can't directly mount it in an ATX case, you can't plug more RAM into it, and you certainly can't attach an Nvidia GPU either.
- makomk 10y agoThe Pi 3 is strictly inferior to the ODROID-C2 and Pine64 in the areas he cares about - less RAM, slower I/O, proprietary bootloader that can't even boot 64-bit kernels, etc. Plus it still doesn't use a standard PC form factor. It's not even cheaper either.