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And yet Switzerland is much less immigration friendly than all the countries you've mentioned.

by kele 10y ago

thirdsun 10y ago
I didn't mean specific issues like immigration, but the general ability of the people to understand and comprehend complex issues and problems and vote accordingly - even if I disagree. Meanwhile it seems everywhere else whoever shouts the loudest, promises the most fantastic things or tells the most fear mongering tales gets ahead. Just my impression of course.
faebi 10y ago
And yet switzerland has one of the highest percentages of immigrants. Switzerland has a foreigners share of ~24%. Except Luxembourg every other EU nation has less immigrants than switzerland. As an example, Great Britain has only ~8%.
- kele 10y ago
  The percentage of immigrants living in a country is a result of a long term process. I believe that what we are discussing right now is the 'refugee' crisis.
herbst 10y ago
Thats not true. It just does not mix emotions with politics so much and so the decisions made sometimes sound really harsh, when in reality they often aren't. Disclaimer: I am a EU foreigner in Switzerland.
- kele 10y ago
  Just to be clear, I'm not saying that Switzerland is unfriendly. I'm saying that it's less friendly than the countries mentioned in the comment. That's because I believe they are too friendly. Last time I was in Zurich, this is the first thing I've seen at the railway station [1]. This is a very reasonable thing to do for Swiss people and something very different to what is happening in EU during the "refugee" crisis. On the other hand, in the EU it would be considered anti-immigrant or even racist (especially by media). [1] http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2016/02/28/512187838-people-walk-february-25-2016-zurich-gettyimages.jpg http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/...

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And yet Switzerland is much less immigration friendly than all the countries you've mentioned.

by kele 10y ago

And yet Switzerland is much less immigration friendly than all the countries you've mentioned.

thirdsun 10y ago
I didn't mean specific issues like immigration, but the general ability of the people to understand and comprehend complex issues and problems and vote accordingly - even if I disagree. Meanwhile it seems everywhere else whoever shouts the loudest, promises the most fantastic things or tells the most fear mongering tales gets ahead. Just my impression of course.
faebi 10y ago
And yet switzerland has one of the highest percentages of immigrants. Switzerland has a foreigners share of ~24%. Except Luxembourg every other EU nation has less immigrants than switzerland. As an example, Great Britain has only ~8%.
- kele 10y ago
  The percentage of immigrants living in a country is a result of a long term process. I believe that what we are discussing right now is the 'refugee' crisis.
herbst 10y ago
Thats not true. It just does not mix emotions with politics so much and so the decisions made sometimes sound really harsh, when in reality they often aren't. Disclaimer: I am a EU foreigner in Switzerland.
- kele 10y ago
  Just to be clear, I'm not saying that Switzerland is unfriendly. I'm saying that it's less friendly than the countries mentioned in the comment. That's because I believe they are too friendly. Last time I was in Zurich, this is the first thing I've seen at the railway station [1]. This is a very reasonable thing to do for Swiss people and something very different to what is happening in EU during the "refugee" crisis. On the other hand, in the EU it would be considered anti-immigrant or even racist (especially by media). [1] http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2016/02/28/512187838-people-walk-february-25-2016-zurich-gettyimages.jpg http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/...