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> There are many things that are curious in the UK legal system. This week, a guy has been sentenced to 30y in jail for gun trafficking [...] items that are not

> There are many things that are curious in the UK legal system. This week, a guy has been sentenced to 30y in jail for gun trafficking [...] items that are not even illegal in countries like the US If you tried to smuggle this: http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/0B22/production/_88505820_88505817.jpg http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/0B22/production/_... and this: http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/11A62/production/_88509227_88505906.jpg http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/11A62/productio... into the USA, you'd be facing about 630 years in jail, not 30.

cm2187 10y ago
My point is that you wouldn't even need to smuggle it in the US, like you wouldn't even need to smuggle alcohol in the UK or pot in California.
- jdietrich 10y ago
  We do things differently here. As a result, we have only had one mass shooting incident in the last 20 years. Our per-capita murder rate is about 1/4 that of the US. We had three fatal police shootings last year, one in 2014 and none in 2013. You might not like it, but we do. Our system of gun control is overwhelmingly popular. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5 http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5 http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/fatal-police-shootings http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/fatal-police-shootings
  - cm2187 10y ago
    I don't want to make it another gun control debate, but I do not think it is the prohibition of weapons that make shooting rares. Drugs are equally prohibited and are by no mean rare. Everyone has an assault riffle at home in Switzerland and I have never heard of a mass shooting there. I think it's more a behavioral thing than a gun law thing.
    - scholia 10y ago
      This may well be true. However, it's better to have a behavioral problem without guns than a behavioral problem with guns widely and easily available.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  A drug dealer cannot legally import automatic firearms into the US. The only way they could be imported is by a licensed dealer, for sale to the military or law enforcement. It's likely you just meant to make a more generalized comparison of the laws, but most people wanting to import the weapons in that article into the US would need to smuggle them.
- DanBC 10y ago
  Alcohol is routinely smuggled into the UK.

cm2187 10y ago

My point is that you wouldn't even need to smuggle it in the US, like you wouldn't even need to smuggle alcohol in the UK or pot in California.

jdietrich 10y ago
We do things differently here. As a result, we have only had one mass shooting incident in the last 20 years. Our per-capita murder rate is about 1/4 that of the US. We had three fatal police shootings last year, one in 2014 and none in 2013. You might not like it, but we do. Our system of gun control is overwhelmingly popular. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5 http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5 http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/fatal-police-shootings http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/fatal-police-shootings
- cm2187 10y ago
  I don't want to make it another gun control debate, but I do not think it is the prohibition of weapons that make shooting rares. Drugs are equally prohibited and are by no mean rare. Everyone has an assault riffle at home in Switzerland and I have never heard of a mass shooting there. I think it's more a behavioral thing than a gun law thing.
  - scholia 10y ago
    This may well be true. However, it's better to have a behavioral problem without guns than a behavioral problem with guns widely and easily available.
maxerickson 10y ago
A drug dealer cannot legally import automatic firearms into the US. The only way they could be imported is by a licensed dealer, for sale to the military or law enforcement. It's likely you just meant to make a more generalized comparison of the laws, but most people wanting to import the weapons in that article into the US would need to smuggle them.
DanBC 10y ago
Alcohol is routinely smuggled into the UK.