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We need another Teddy Roosevelt. Or for the general population to start giving a shit. About anything, really.

erikpukinskis 10y ago
Those are both terrible strategies for trying to fix the problem. How about doing more science or more journalism? Those things have the dual benefits of helping solve the problem and actually being possible without zombie time travel.
- foota 10y ago
  The science and journalism are both clearly there, it's that people don't pay attention to it, or even intentionally ignore what it's saying.
  - erikpukinskis 10y ago
    What is journalism for if not that?
mdorazio 10y ago
The American general population unfortunately tends not to care overly much about things that don't directly impact them in the short term. People have so many immediately pressing things in their lives, like unemployment, debt load, putting their kids through school, etc. that a thing like climate change which might have ramifications for their grandchildren are too easy to ignore. What we really need is more science-based governing policies with respect to environmental impact, but that again relies on the public electing officials with that stance. I don't have a good solution, but it's a broad enough problem that there isn't a simple fix.
- elevenfist 10y ago
  I have family in the midwest. The problem isn't that they don't care or aren't busy, they don't know what's going on most of the time, or they know the wrong thing because they just skim one newspaper and occasionally listen to the radio. Yes tgey have computers, internet, and smartphones, but they're not using them to investigate issues or much at all.
gscott 10y ago
Teddy Roosevelt was the last President to not be bought by the 1%. I am looking forward to President Trump being the 2nd. The 1% spending tens of millions trying to stop him tells you how afraid they are of him.
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  What about FDR? I can't imagine his New Deal policies being too popular amongst the rich. And in the modern day we also have Bernie Sanders, who actually has a demonstrable, 30+ year track record of integrity, unlike Trump. Just a thought...
  - gscott 10y ago
    You are right about FDR. I like Bernie but he has some grand plans with taxes that might be a little too much. If he could scale back some that would be good. Bernie might have to be the candidate because the Clinton email thing really does have legs. At first I thought the email thing was no big deal but copying secure data from one system into emails on another system ends up to be technically breaking the law no matter how good the intentions are.
    - enraged_camel 10y ago
      The vast majority of Bernie's tax increases will target the ultra-rich and Wall Street speculators. For the middle class, taxes will rise a noticeable amount, but that will be more than offset by free healthcare and free college. Plug your numbers here to see an estimate of change on your disposable income: http://www.bernietax.com/ http://www.bernietax.com/
- simplemath 10y ago
  Trump is not going to be president. It's nearly statistically impossible.
  - deleted 10y ago
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Those are both terrible strategies for trying to fix the problem. How about doing more science or more journalism? Those things have the dual benefits of helping solve the problem and actually being possible without zombie time travel.

foota 10y ago
The science and journalism are both clearly there, it's that people don't pay attention to it, or even intentionally ignore what it's saying.
- erikpukinskis 10y ago
  What is journalism for if not that?

mdorazio 10y ago

The American general population unfortunately tends not to care overly much about things that don't directly impact them in the short term. People have so many immediately pressing things in their lives, like unemployment, debt load, putting their kids through school, etc. that a thing like climate change which might have ramifications for their grandchildren are too easy to ignore. What we really need is more science-based governing policies with respect to environmental impact, but that again relies on the public electing officials with that stance. I don't have a good solution, but it's a broad enough problem that there isn't a simple fix.

elevenfist 10y ago
I have family in the midwest. The problem isn't that they don't care or aren't busy, they don't know what's going on most of the time, or they know the wrong thing because they just skim one newspaper and occasionally listen to the radio. Yes tgey have computers, internet, and smartphones, but they're not using them to investigate issues or much at all.

gscott 10y ago

Teddy Roosevelt was the last President to not be bought by the 1%. I am looking forward to President Trump being the 2nd. The 1% spending tens of millions trying to stop him tells you how afraid they are of him.

enraged_camel 10y ago
What about FDR? I can't imagine his New Deal policies being too popular amongst the rich. And in the modern day we also have Bernie Sanders, who actually has a demonstrable, 30+ year track record of integrity, unlike Trump. Just a thought...
- gscott 10y ago
  You are right about FDR. I like Bernie but he has some grand plans with taxes that might be a little too much. If he could scale back some that would be good. Bernie might have to be the candidate because the Clinton email thing really does have legs. At first I thought the email thing was no big deal but copying secure data from one system into emails on another system ends up to be technically breaking the law no matter how good the intentions are.
  - enraged_camel 10y ago
    The vast majority of Bernie's tax increases will target the ultra-rich and Wall Street speculators. For the middle class, taxes will rise a noticeable amount, but that will be more than offset by free healthcare and free college. Plug your numbers here to see an estimate of change on your disposable income: http://www.bernietax.com/ http://www.bernietax.com/
simplemath 10y ago
Trump is not going to be president. It's nearly statistically impossible.
- deleted 10y ago
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