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Actually, either far left or far right lean control freak. Hitler and his Fascist ally, Mussolini, were both far-right contol freaks. Josef Stalin and his pred

Actually, either far left or far right lean control freak. Hitler and his Fascist ally, Mussolini, were both far-right contol freaks. Josef Stalin and his predecessors were far left control freaks. People in power like control, contrary to what they might say. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. People want to be elected because of their egos. Full stop. There is no other reason. No one does it because "they love America". They want to latch onto the gravy train and collect a check all the while dictating terms and or furthering an agenda. It's patently obvious to all.

mSparks 11y ago
In most of Europe "far left" means "not even a little bit of a control freak" and "far right" means "kill anyone you don't like". And all the politics is what Americans and English call "left wing". Which is why the likes of Stalin and Hitler are referred to as "right wing", even though their politics was mostly left wing by a US/UK definition. imho, "control freskishness" is more acurrately captured on a liberal/fascist scale. Big difference between say Obama and Clinton, while both "left wing" in the sense of "supporting the poor". is Obama is liberal whereas Clinton is bordering on European "far right" fascist to compete with the most well known of them.
emodendroket 11y ago
I think the axes that the political compass (authoritarian-libertarian and economic left/economic right has are, while imperfect, a better way to think about it.
mamon 11y ago
I feel the need to correct that mistake every time I see it: Hitler and Mussolini were both far-left. This is not a coincidence that Hitler's political party (NSDAP) was called National Socialists. Hitler himself was the fan of Karl Marx. It is worth remembering that effectively ALL totalitarian systems of 20th century were leftist.
- greenisland 11y ago
  http://seanmunger.com/2015/09/16/a-cruel-distortion-of-history-no-hitler-was-not-a-leftist/ http://seanmunger.com/2015/09/16/a-cruel-distortion-of-histo...

mSparks 11y ago

In most of Europe "far left" means "not even a little bit of a control freak" and "far right" means "kill anyone you don't like". And all the politics is what Americans and English call "left wing". Which is why the likes of Stalin and Hitler are referred to as "right wing", even though their politics was mostly left wing by a US/UK definition. imho, "control freskishness" is more acurrately captured on a liberal/fascist scale. Big difference between say Obama and Clinton, while both "left wing" in the sense of "supporting the poor". is Obama is liberal whereas Clinton is bordering on European "far right" fascist to compete with the most well known of them.

emodendroket 11y ago

I think the axes that the political compass (authoritarian-libertarian and economic left/economic right has are, while imperfect, a better way to think about it.

mamon 11y ago

I feel the need to correct that mistake every time I see it: Hitler and Mussolini were both far-left. This is not a coincidence that Hitler's political party (NSDAP) was called National Socialists. Hitler himself was the fan of Karl Marx. It is worth remembering that effectively ALL totalitarian systems of 20th century were leftist.

greenisland 11y ago
http://seanmunger.com/2015/09/16/a-cruel-distortion-of-history-no-hitler-was-not-a-leftist/ http://seanmunger.com/2015/09/16/a-cruel-distortion-of-histo...