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Obama, our manipulating word artisan of a president yet again attempting to use strong language (i.e "fetishizing") to polarize our view.

bigiain 11y ago
Interesting choice too - there's clearly a demographic who go to the Folsom Street Fair who definitely don't have negative connotations to "fetishizing", and I suspect any porn site operator could give you some numbers that some people would not believe about the number of people for whom fetishes are a real thing. I wonder if Obama and his speechwriters have research about how many people (and from which demographics) that phrase is going to be read in which ways? (I wonder if they've worked out that they've already lost the tech crowd on this issue, and there's a statistically significant crossover between the tech crowd and the people for whom fetishes are considered a positive thing?)
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- tomlongson 11y ago
  If they are not harnessing big data for writing speeches then the White House is less savvy than Netflix and House of Cards writer, Beau Willimon.
CamperBob2 11y ago
First he accused me of clinging to my guns, but since I didn't own any guns, I was OK with that. Next he accused me of clinging to my religion, but since I was an atheist, I was like, meh, whatever. Then he accused me of clinging to my smartphone, and oh, boy. It's on now, motherfucker.
- ossreality 11y ago
  Oh, please delete this before more people see it and you're further embarrassed. Or, you know, elaborate on how the federal government has infringed on any of your religious rights whatsoever. Or, you know, your gun rights... at all... Really easy to beat strawmen, come on. Have some self respect. Why did you press Enter on that comment? You and I both know that you were aware it was bullshit when you posted it. Did you think we're all just stupid?
vmorgulis 11y ago
It's also (and not only) in Marx's vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism
- tosseraccount 11y ago
  Was Obama using this term in a Marxist economics context?
  - vmorgulis 11y ago
    It's a word from a democrat (thus a progressist) to people that defend privacy or freedom (so progressists too). In that context, the word is pejorative and is related to marxism (more than freudism). BTW I don't think Obama wrote his speech (according my knowledge of House of Cards :) ).
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bigiain 11y ago

Interesting choice too - there's clearly a demographic who go to the Folsom Street Fair who definitely don't have negative connotations to "fetishizing", and I suspect any porn site operator could give you some numbers that some people would not believe about the number of people for whom fetishes are a real thing. I wonder if Obama and his speechwriters have research about how many people (and from which demographics) that phrase is going to be read in which ways? (I wonder if they've worked out that they've already lost the tech crowd on this issue, and there's a statistically significant crossover between the tech crowd and the people for whom fetishes are considered a positive thing?)

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tomlongson 11y ago
If they are not harnessing big data for writing speeches then the White House is less savvy than Netflix and House of Cards writer, Beau Willimon.

CamperBob2 11y ago

First he accused me of clinging to my guns, but since I didn't own any guns, I was OK with that. Next he accused me of clinging to my religion, but since I was an atheist, I was like, meh, whatever. Then he accused me of clinging to my smartphone, and oh, boy. It's on now, motherfucker.

ossreality 11y ago
Oh, please delete this before more people see it and you're further embarrassed. Or, you know, elaborate on how the federal government has infringed on any of your religious rights whatsoever. Or, you know, your gun rights... at all... Really easy to beat strawmen, come on. Have some self respect. Why did you press Enter on that comment? You and I both know that you were aware it was bullshit when you posted it. Did you think we're all just stupid?

vmorgulis 11y ago

It's also (and not only) in Marx's vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism

tosseraccount 11y ago
Was Obama using this term in a Marxist economics context?
- vmorgulis 11y ago
  It's a word from a democrat (thus a progressist) to people that defend privacy or freedom (so progressists too). In that context, the word is pejorative and is related to marxism (more than freudism). BTW I don't think Obama wrote his speech (according my knowledge of House of Cards :) ).

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