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No one is "meant" to be tortured and abused. I find you reply to be morally abhorrent and absolutely disgusting. Right now, at this very moment, on American hi
by noondip 11y ago
No one is "meant" to be tortured and abused. I find you reply to be morally abhorrent and absolutely disgusting.
Right now, at this very moment, on American highways, there are no less than 5,000 concentration camp trucks. Trucks that we’ve constructed. Inside these trucks there are living, terrified, innocent beings (such as) cows, pigs and chickens. These trucks are being driven to concentration camp slaughterhouses that we’ve carefully constructed all across America. When the trucks arrive, the animals are so frightened they won’t even get off the truck. They’re not stupid. They know what’s next. So people go on the trucks with electric prods and force them to walk down the chutes to their own death. Or if the animals are small enough to manhandle, like chickens, we’ll just grab them off the trucks and toss them inside. Inside, these innocent, living beings are hanged upside down, fully conscious. In other words, they go in alive against their will and come out chopped up into hundreds of pieces. I think this type of behavior is inexcusable and unbecoming of a species that claims to understand right from wrong. The animals have not done one single thing to us to deserve the wrath and the cruelty that we hurl on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt4lweBJTQs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt4lweBJTQs
- logfromblammo 11y agoI find your reference to "concentration camps" in relation to livestock finishing feedlots and slaughterhouses to be tremendously inappropriate. Please find another way to shock and horrify readers into treating food animals more humanely. It might not have been your intent, but you are reducing the victims of actual concentration camps to the status of food animals.
- pasquinelli 11y ago"you are reducing the victims of actual concentration camps to the status of food animals." to be fair, it was the nazis that did that.
- noondip 11y agoI'm hardly the first to draw a comparison between the treatment of animals and the Holocaust [1]. Every year, 150 billion animals are born and slaughtered [2]. I think to compare their plight, which was happening long before the Jewish Holocaust and continues to this day, is offensive and shows a great lack of empathy, or understanding of their situation and present experience. Just like us, non-human animals are not machines, they are not for the satisfaction of our needs in this world, and they do not belong to us. I therefore advocate a lifestyle that is called ethical veganism [3][4]. It goes well beyond the diet and includes all aspects of life and human and animal interaction. Only when we look at other animals as individuals, with dignity and respect, can we really know who they are. As long as you cling to euphemisms and degrade sentient creatures to being mere commodities for your personal enjoyment, you will remain ignorant of their individuality, their ability to suffer and their desire to live and be free. 1. http://www.amazon.com/Eternal-Treblinka-Treatment-Animals-Holocaust/dp/1930051999 http://www.amazon.com/Eternal-Treblinka-Treatment-Animals-Ho... 2. http://www.adaptt.org/killcounter.html http://www.adaptt.org/killcounter.html 3. http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/ http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/ 4. http://johnnytisdale.com/veganism-is-a-scientific-imperative/ http://johnnytisdale.com/veganism-is-a-scientific-imperative...
- Synaesthesia 11y agoI think it's correct, in fact livestock farms are worse than most concentration camps.
- logfromblammo 11y agoExcept that their purpose is not human genocide. If you do indeed believe that battery farming of livestock for meat production is worse than human genocide, we cannot have a rational conversation about ethics or animal rights, as we do not agree on the necessary foundation premises.
- Synaesthesia 11y agoWe must differentiate between concentration camps and death camps. Concentration camps are just large prisons, death camps are for genocide. Also, food farms are for animal genocide.
- dang 11y agoWe've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11269620 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11269620 and marked it off-topic.