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I mean, the difference between "resist management giving themselves millions while cutting pay for workers" and "price fixing/restrict competition" is just an a
by digbyloftus 11y ago
I mean, the difference between "resist management giving themselves millions while cutting pay for workers" and "price fixing/restrict competition" is just an arbitrary, subjective distinction based on your opinion on how much money people should make. Either way the goal is to get more money for members of the group. If you don't think doctors deserve the inflated value the AMA has captured for them but think that other union workers deserve more money then that's fair enough but practically it's the same game.
There's also a word for what you're doing. A tautology I think? It seems disingenuous to classify unions based on "good" value capture. It creates a position where unions literally can do no wrong because they'll just stop meeting your definition of union.
- mattmcknight 11y agoNo True Scotsman Fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
- crdoconnor 11y ago>I mean, the difference between "resist management giving themselves millions while cutting pay for workers" and "price fixing/restrict competition" is just an arbitrary, subjective distinction based on your opinion on how much money people should make. Who would you prefer was paid more? Your doctor or his non-medical MBA manager?
- digbyloftus 11y agoWhichever leads to the best, most efficient medical industry and provides myself as a consumer with the most value.
- lenkite 11y agoAccording to the MBA manager, most efficient = most profits. And most value = more tests and more expenses by the 'consumer'. Looks like you are on with the Kool Aid!
- CPLX 11y agoUnions primarily engage in collective bargaining with the employers of their members. The AMA is not a union.
- digbyloftus 11y agoVery likely to be true and I wont disagree! I'm not actually even from the US so I'm unfamiliar with their scope. I disagree with the person I'm replying tos reasoning more than anything. Their objection was of a different nature than yours.
- MaysonL 11y agoYou're right, it isn't a union, it's a cartel!
- CPLX 11y agoNo, a cartel is a group of competing firms in the same industry that form an alliance. The best analogy for the AMA would be something like a guild.