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This is odd, but not catastrophic. If I understand right, Zigbee is open, so what's to stop the bulbs working with a third-party controller hub? Say, a Raspber

This is odd, but not catastrophic. If I understand right, Zigbee is open, so what's to stop the bulbs working with a third-party controller hub? Say, a Raspberry Pi with a Zigbee interface? Wonder if this is still relevant? http://www.everyhue.com/vanilla/discussion/141/getting-hue-to-join-my-coordinator-and-related-zigbee-questions http://www.everyhue.com/vanilla/discussion/141/getting-hue-t... That thread suggests it's possible to have Hue bulbs join third-party ZigBee networks.

steven2012 11y ago
It's the other way around. People want to use their non-Hue lights with the Hue bridge, which is no longer possible. Now it means having to buy another bridge that supports both.
ChuckMcM 11y ago
Yes, you can do this. And for the most part you can control your lights from your own software. I was looking at the protocol using a HackRF One to see how easy or hard it would be to build a replacement hub controller. I don't know if there are any patent issues however, that would be something that you couldn't really code around.
- Sanddancer 11y ago
  It's an open standard, which Philips hypocritically helped write, so there shouldn't be any patent issues other than the normal ones. You can even get it online from http://www.zigbee.org/zigbee-for-developers/applicationstandards/zigbee-light-link/ http://www.zigbee.org/zigbee-for-developers/applicationstand... . It's clickwrapped, but rather extant.
  - ChuckMcM 11y ago
    The same Phillips that sent out C&D letters to people who wrote software i2c implementations [1]. Their reputation precedes them. [1[ http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp?by=thread&id=I2C+COPYRIGHTS%3F%3F%3F&w=body&author=Tim+Hamel&tgt=top http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp?by=thread&id=I2C+...
Sidnicious 11y ago
About a week ago, I bought a RaspBee for this purpose. https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/solutions/wireless-light-control/raspbee/ https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/solutions/wire... I love the battery-less Hue Tap switches, but the Hue hub's REST API doesn't let me subscribe to button presses. My plan is to make my own controller software and take the Hue hub out of the system. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the RaspBee neglected to document how to talk to the stock firmware. When I asked support, they suggested running their (closed-source) software on my Pi and then using its REST API, which doesn't support subscribing to events either. The RaspBee does support loading custom firmware, so my next step might be writing some.

steven2012 11y ago

It's the other way around. People want to use their non-Hue lights with the Hue bridge, which is no longer possible. Now it means having to buy another bridge that supports both.

ChuckMcM 11y ago

Yes, you can do this. And for the most part you can control your lights from your own software. I was looking at the protocol using a HackRF One to see how easy or hard it would be to build a replacement hub controller. I don't know if there are any patent issues however, that would be something that you couldn't really code around.

Sanddancer 11y ago
It's an open standard, which Philips hypocritically helped write, so there shouldn't be any patent issues other than the normal ones. You can even get it online from http://www.zigbee.org/zigbee-for-developers/applicationstandards/zigbee-light-link/ http://www.zigbee.org/zigbee-for-developers/applicationstand... . It's clickwrapped, but rather extant.
- ChuckMcM 11y ago
  The same Phillips that sent out C&D letters to people who wrote software i2c implementations [1]. Their reputation precedes them. [1[ http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp?by=thread&id=I2C+COPYRIGHTS%3F%3F%3F&w=body&author=Tim+Hamel&tgt=top http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp?by=thread&id=I2C+...

Sidnicious 11y ago

About a week ago, I bought a RaspBee for this purpose. https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/solutions/wireless-light-control/raspbee/ https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/solutions/wire... I love the battery-less Hue Tap switches, but the Hue hub's REST API doesn't let me subscribe to button presses. My plan is to make my own controller software and take the Hue hub out of the system. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the RaspBee neglected to document how to talk to the stock firmware. When I asked support, they suggested running their (closed-source) software on my Pi and then using its REST API, which doesn't support subscribing to events either. The RaspBee does support loading custom firmware, so my next step might be writing some.