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A mac("Apple") was significantly less expensive than a 'high-end' computer at the time. At least thats was the feeling, having talked to my parents about it bef
by devsquid 11y ago
A mac("Apple") was significantly less expensive than a 'high-end' computer at the time. At least thats was the feeling, having talked to my parents about it before.
- greedo 11y agoThat's a strawman. The Mac was significantly more expensive than the Apple ][, and the PC etc. Not to mention the various Commodore's etc. Don't even get me started on the Lisa. Just because the Mac was cheaper than a minicomputer or a workstation doesn't mean it wasn't expensive. For the demographic it targeted, it was a very expensive machine. The Mac had an MSRP of $2495 compared to the PC at around $1600.
- devsquid 11y agoHow was that a strawman? Also I'm sorry I meant the Apple. To me they are the same computer. I understand historically they are not. I never said it wasn't expensive, even the Apple which MSRP ranged from 1,000$ to 2,000$ was still expensive but seems fairly competitive for the time. Cars are also pretty expensive tho lol. But luxury and sports cars are far outside the price-to-use range of a middle class family. A 'Apple' Computer, at least for my family, was worth it for them at that price range. A 20k car functions just as well as a 100k car, the Apple at 1k was pretty phenomenal for my mother from what she has told me. -edit- I don't think I really get what your point is?
- ant6n 11y agoApple was an expensive car. Just like Tesla is an expensive car. Work stations are not a car, they are more like a big truck. Nowadays Apple is an affordable car. Tesla may one day be an affordable car.
- devsquid 11y agoComputers were very expensive back then. I don't think Apple was an expensive computer at the time of its launch and part of what was so compelling about it was a personal computer not a work station. Tesla is an extremely expensive car. Especially if you consider its value-to-price.
- greglindahl 11y agoThe Lisa and the NEXT cube were extremely expensive when introduced. The Thin Mac had 1/8 the ram of the Lisa, as a cost reduction. And, obviously, different people assign different value to the car. The 97% of owners who'd buy again probably don't agree with you.
- devsquid 11y agoOk Apple also sold expensive computers. The point remains, Apple was founded on selling computer and bringing the power of computers to middle class 'normal' people. Tesla was founded on selling cars to a wealthy niche market.
- greglindahl 11y agoSorry, are you interested in Tesla's founding story, or your opinion about it? Because, just like your recollection of the price-points of Apple products in the past, your opinion diverges from what Tesla says their goals are and were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Motors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Motors "Tesla's primary goal was to commercialize electric vehicles, starting with a premium sports car aimed at early adopters and then moving as rapidly as possible into more mainstream vehicles, including sedans and affordable compacts" https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-... (August 2, 2006) Let's keep Hacker News grounded in reality, please.
- devsquid 11y agoLol you are quoting marketing material at me now... When Tesla becomes a affordable car seller then ok they will no longer be a company that specializes in selling very expensive cars to a wealthy niche. I looked up the price points, they are accurate... so fuck you and your condescending tone.
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