5 ms·

Let's say you absolutely want to stay in 9-5... than I would constantly propose interesting projects inside the company. That way over time I would work on mor

• j_baker 17y ago
  Better yet, prototype interesting projects. Managers love turning down proposals. They are a bit less likely to turn down something that already has working code, even if it's just a proof-of-concept.
  • geeko 17y ago
    Totally agree on this. I'm on it at this very moment :) And I'm telling you, even then, convincing managers is not easier than convincing any other investor.
    • aaronblohowiak 17y ago
      "And I'm telling you, even then, convincing managers is not easier than convincing any other investor" You should know your manager much better than you know your investor. If you know someone, you should be better equipped to share your vision with them. Then, three things can happen a) your vision is rejected because it has a flaw you did not see b) your vision is rejected because it does not match your manager's situation (you should put more effort in getting to know your manager's situation!) or c) your idea is accepted. Of course, (b) is really hard. Then again, most programmers I know don't evaluate their corporate structures and people as thoroughly as they evaluate code.