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Personally, I'd rather have a few extra mm of thickness and batteries that are not glued to a keyboard. Efforts could be made to keep this tech more repairable.

by redidas 11y ago

tptacek 11y ago
Speak for yourself. I want a thin laptop that feels almost like a slab of mysteriously lightweight solid aluminum, and Apple is delivering that. It's not like this was a cost-saving measure for them; they're not pulling one over on you. They went nuts trying to make these things solid, lightweight, and skinny, and this was a tradeoff they made --- at significant expense.
- zzleeper 11y ago
  It reminds me of printer sales or high-fee consumer credits.. they benefit from consumer myopia about the future. There's even a lot of literature about that: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/4554333/Laibson_ShroudedAttributes.pdf?sequence=2 https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/4554333/Laibson_... In this case, I'm guessing many people that are not that well-off still buy macs but don't really realize the future repair costs..
  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    Does it remind you of buying nearly everything? Do you think the average consumer decides to buy a home appliance or a television based on the possibility of providing user service at reduced rates?
- 51Cards 11y ago
  " --- at significant expense." Which is being directly passed on to the client along with an extra slice of profit making. Brilliant but not so nice if you're the client.
p0wnd 11y ago
Great, you can buy a chunky ass hp laptop and enjoy that big ol paperweight all you want.
Bud 11y ago
"Efforts could be made"? Which passive-voice efforts do you mean, specifically? Apple has designed their battery to be made up of several curved units that take up all available airspace in the case, and those have to be secured in place somehow, so that they don't rattle around like cheap PCs. Screws are not a realistic solution here because of obvious strictures from the design. A simple one-piece replaceable battery design is simply no longer feasible in this form factor. So if you think it'd be trivial to make this more repairable, you need to say precisely how.
rasz_pl 11y ago
good for you, HP and DELL are ready to take orders.

Personally, I'd rather have a few extra mm of thickness and batteries that are not glued to a keyboard. Efforts could be made to keep this tech more repairable.

by redidas 11y ago

Personally, I'd rather have a few extra mm of thickness and batteries that are not glued to a keyboard. Efforts could be made to keep this tech more repairable.

tptacek 11y ago

Speak for yourself. I want a thin laptop that feels almost like a slab of mysteriously lightweight solid aluminum, and Apple is delivering that. It's not like this was a cost-saving measure for them; they're not pulling one over on you. They went nuts trying to make these things solid, lightweight, and skinny, and this was a tradeoff they made --- at significant expense.

zzleeper 11y ago
It reminds me of printer sales or high-fee consumer credits.. they benefit from consumer myopia about the future. There's even a lot of literature about that: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/4554333/Laibson_ShroudedAttributes.pdf?sequence=2 https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/4554333/Laibson_... In this case, I'm guessing many people that are not that well-off still buy macs but don't really realize the future repair costs..
- oldmanjay 11y ago
  Does it remind you of buying nearly everything? Do you think the average consumer decides to buy a home appliance or a television based on the possibility of providing user service at reduced rates?
51Cards 11y ago
" --- at significant expense." Which is being directly passed on to the client along with an extra slice of profit making. Brilliant but not so nice if you're the client.

p0wnd 11y ago

Great, you can buy a chunky ass hp laptop and enjoy that big ol paperweight all you want.

Bud 11y ago

"Efforts could be made"? Which passive-voice efforts do you mean, specifically? Apple has designed their battery to be made up of several curved units that take up all available airspace in the case, and those have to be secured in place somehow, so that they don't rattle around like cheap PCs. Screws are not a realistic solution here because of obvious strictures from the design. A simple one-piece replaceable battery design is simply no longer feasible in this form factor. So if you think it'd be trivial to make this more repairable, you need to say precisely how.

rasz_pl 11y ago

good for you, HP and DELL are ready to take orders.