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Why would you keep your FB posts public and not limited to your friends or to some subset of those (depending on what you are posting)? Comments here seem to o

by crwll 11y ago

Why would you keep your FB posts public and not limited to your friends or to some subset of those (depending on what you are posting)? Comments here seem to once again indicate as if everything posted to Facebook was automatically and irrevocably public. I don't really see that going on at least on my group of friends.

jackgavigan 11y ago
What if it becomes a prerequisite to grant your bank or FICO access to your Facebook posts, as part of the loan application?
- PMan74 11y ago
  Or what if FB just decide to sell access to all posts (regardless of privacy setting on that post) to certain companies. Could they do that? You'd probably have to read (and keep up with) the T&Cs.
- chrsstrm 11y ago
  A: "What Facebook profile?"
  - izacus 11y ago
    "I see. Lowest credit rating then." Same as for us foreigners who don't have any credit rating records valid in US. Meaning you get the crappiest deals and worst apartments.
- Sephr 11y ago
  Then you simply tell them that you don't have a Facebook account. If they find a private account with your name, you can tell them that it's not you.
  - spacemanmatt 11y ago
    If FB couldn't figure out who you are, they locked your account and required a photo of your driver's license or other state/national ID to verify identity.
  - intopieces 11y ago
    It seems unlikely that this process will involve a human to intervene. Bots could do this easily, and could exploit things your friends share without you knowing. "I got super wasted with x last night" being posted or... Or worse. They get access to those Facebook Messages?
- p8donald 11y ago
  You can create user groups or G+ style circles on FB. For instance, I've got posts that only my friends see, most of them are also visible to my parents and very few are visible to acquaintances. Add the representative of the bank to one of the limited visibility groups. Not sure how that works when FB API is used.
- johnpowell 11y ago
  Wasn't this a big thing years ago? Employers asking for your Facebook username and password during the interview process? I seem to remember a lot of articles about that and then it just stopped.
  - pjc50 11y ago
    It was followed up by a round of banning the practice: https://www.thesourcinginstitute.com/content/maryland-lawmakers-ban-employers-requesting-facebook-credentials-employees-or%C2%A0interviewees https://www.thesourcinginstitute.com/content/maryland-lawmak... A rare outbreak of common sense in US labour law, although I suspect Facebook also lobbied for it - it's against their TOS to give your credentials to the interviewer.
- Loque 11y ago
  Because _everyone_ has a facebook account? Bank/work somewhere else if the prerequisite is to have a facebook account that is accessible to people who are not your friends. Alternatively, if you are genuinely worried about being able to do this, I would advise setting up a public profile separate from a personal one (cpt obvious). I remember when it was a faux pas to put your real name on the internet - long live the days of having an alias that you can make a whole bunch of mistakes to a private group of friends without being publicly remembered for it.
- venomsnake 11y ago
  You will be surprised how easy is to create second facebook profile.
- scintill76 11y ago
  I could see this starting as an opt-in for a little bump (of rate, score, etc.) in your favor, like how the car insurance companies give you a discount if you let them log your driving and it shows safe behavior (e.g. https://www.progressive.com/auto/snapshot/ https://www.progressive.com/auto/snapshot/)
- ionised 11y ago
  I'd rather just close my Facebook account.
TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
A lot of people have all their posts public and either do not realise this, or don't know the implications of being fully public.
TeMPOraL 11y ago
Why wouldn't you? I post default-public, on purpose. I welcome everyone to stalk me on Facebook as much as they like and to comment on anything that's interesting for them. I have very little personal secrets I want to limit access to, and generally live a single life. I understand it's a privileged position, as I'm just a pretty average straight, white, male, cisgendered, neuro-sort-of-typical Western geek, but I see no reason to post private when I don't need it. I understand most people limit posts to friends or friends-of-friends (the latter is I think the default setting on Facebook now), though this kind of annoys me when I want to learn something about a person I'm not friends with and see an empty profile, or when I want to share a post from one friend to another friend (usually in a private message, in the form of "look at this insightful post or funny picture I saw on my timeline"), but the former has the post visible to his friends only, and the latter isn't friend with them. There are trivial workarounds for last case though. EDIT: I'm not telling anyone that they should go full-public. But OP seems to be bewildered by the fact that some people do in fact keep full-public profiles on purpose.
- maaku 11y ago
  You are lucky.
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    I'm also the majority (sans the geek part). In threads about Facebook I see people so focused on various minorities and corner cases that they act surprised by behaviour of people on Facebook, even though said behaviour is perfectly ok for the vast majority of Facebook's users. I think it's good to remind everyone that not everyone wants everything they do to be as private as possible, or has a reason to. In fact, most users don't.
- dennisnedry 11y ago
  It's people like you who are telling the US government that it's ok to surveillance citizens. With your logic, you are saying you have no reason to hide anything, so the government can keep tabs on you. Just because you have nothing to hide doesn't mean you can become a victim of an error as well. Take this story http://www.wired.com/2015/10/familial-dna-evidence-turns-innocent-people-into-crime-suspects/ http://www.wired.com/2015/10/familial-dna-evidence-turns-inn... where a man who "has nothing to hide" and innocent became the suspect in a murder due to him sharing similar DNA It could be you one day, you don't know.
pjc50 11y ago
You can also be tagged in other people's posts, which you have to actively remove from photos (and I don't think it's possible to remove name-references in text at all). Your group of friends is not a representative sample, and neither is mine.
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  There's a setting that makes tagging require you verify and accept the post/photo. I.e. when I turn it on, you can type the letters making up my name, but without my explicit consent given on a case-by-case basis, the name won't turn into a link to my profile. Not everyone enables it, but it's not an obscure feature either. Also, some combinations of privacy settings make you disappear from the tagging suggestion lists completely, but I haven't figured out how it works yet.
  - golemotron 11y ago
    > There's a setting that makes tagging require you verify and accept the post/photo. Where is that?
    - rtpg 11y ago
      there's Timeline review (though I don't think it's exactly what he's saying, it lets pictures tagged with you avoid your wall unless you explicitly accept it)
    - TeMPOraL 11y ago
      Went and checked. There are two things you can do: 1) The second option on Settings/Privacy page controls how things you're tagged in end up on your timeline. On my account there's a link that to the Timeline Review page[0], on which you can enable or disable reviewing things before they become visible on your timeline. 2) There's a whole Settings page for Timeline and Tagging[1]. There you can control who can post on your timeline, how tagging you will work, whether your friends will see posts you get tagged in and whether or not you appear in tag suggestions. The tagging options work across Facebook, not just for your timeline. [0] - https://www.facebook.com/INSERT_PROFILE_NAME/allactivity?log_filter=review&privacy_source=privacy_settings_page https://www.facebook.com/INSERT_PROFILE_NAME/allactivity?log... [1] - https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=timeline https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=timeline

by crwll 11y ago

jackgavigan 11y ago

What if it becomes a prerequisite to grant your bank or FICO access to your Facebook posts, as part of the loan application?

PMan74 11y ago
Or what if FB just decide to sell access to all posts (regardless of privacy setting on that post) to certain companies. Could they do that? You'd probably have to read (and keep up with) the T&Cs.
chrsstrm 11y ago
A: "What Facebook profile?"
- izacus 11y ago
  "I see. Lowest credit rating then." Same as for us foreigners who don't have any credit rating records valid in US. Meaning you get the crappiest deals and worst apartments.
Sephr 11y ago
Then you simply tell them that you don't have a Facebook account. If they find a private account with your name, you can tell them that it's not you.
- spacemanmatt 11y ago
  If FB couldn't figure out who you are, they locked your account and required a photo of your driver's license or other state/national ID to verify identity.
- intopieces 11y ago
  It seems unlikely that this process will involve a human to intervene. Bots could do this easily, and could exploit things your friends share without you knowing. "I got super wasted with x last night" being posted or... Or worse. They get access to those Facebook Messages?
p8donald 11y ago
You can create user groups or G+ style circles on FB. For instance, I've got posts that only my friends see, most of them are also visible to my parents and very few are visible to acquaintances. Add the representative of the bank to one of the limited visibility groups. Not sure how that works when FB API is used.
johnpowell 11y ago
Wasn't this a big thing years ago? Employers asking for your Facebook username and password during the interview process? I seem to remember a lot of articles about that and then it just stopped.
- pjc50 11y ago
  It was followed up by a round of banning the practice: https://www.thesourcinginstitute.com/content/maryland-lawmakers-ban-employers-requesting-facebook-credentials-employees-or%C2%A0interviewees https://www.thesourcinginstitute.com/content/maryland-lawmak... A rare outbreak of common sense in US labour law, although I suspect Facebook also lobbied for it - it's against their TOS to give your credentials to the interviewer.
Loque 11y ago
Because _everyone_ has a facebook account? Bank/work somewhere else if the prerequisite is to have a facebook account that is accessible to people who are not your friends. Alternatively, if you are genuinely worried about being able to do this, I would advise setting up a public profile separate from a personal one (cpt obvious). I remember when it was a faux pas to put your real name on the internet - long live the days of having an alias that you can make a whole bunch of mistakes to a private group of friends without being publicly remembered for it.
venomsnake 11y ago
You will be surprised how easy is to create second facebook profile.
scintill76 11y ago
I could see this starting as an opt-in for a little bump (of rate, score, etc.) in your favor, like how the car insurance companies give you a discount if you let them log your driving and it shows safe behavior (e.g. https://www.progressive.com/auto/snapshot/ https://www.progressive.com/auto/snapshot/)
ionised 11y ago
I'd rather just close my Facebook account.

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

A lot of people have all their posts public and either do not realise this, or don't know the implications of being fully public.

TeMPOraL 11y ago

Why wouldn't you? I post default-public, on purpose. I welcome everyone to stalk me on Facebook as much as they like and to comment on anything that's interesting for them. I have very little personal secrets I want to limit access to, and generally live a single life. I understand it's a privileged position, as I'm just a pretty average straight, white, male, cisgendered, neuro-sort-of-typical Western geek, but I see no reason to post private when I don't need it. I understand most people limit posts to friends or friends-of-friends (the latter is I think the default setting on Facebook now), though this kind of annoys me when I want to learn something about a person I'm not friends with and see an empty profile, or when I want to share a post from one friend to another friend (usually in a private message, in the form of "look at this insightful post or funny picture I saw on my timeline"), but the former has the post visible to his friends only, and the latter isn't friend with them. There are trivial workarounds for last case though. EDIT: I'm not telling anyone that they should go full-public. But OP seems to be bewildered by the fact that some people do in fact keep full-public profiles on purpose.

maaku 11y ago
You are lucky.
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  I'm also the majority (sans the geek part). In threads about Facebook I see people so focused on various minorities and corner cases that they act surprised by behaviour of people on Facebook, even though said behaviour is perfectly ok for the vast majority of Facebook's users. I think it's good to remind everyone that not everyone wants everything they do to be as private as possible, or has a reason to. In fact, most users don't.
dennisnedry 11y ago
It's people like you who are telling the US government that it's ok to surveillance citizens. With your logic, you are saying you have no reason to hide anything, so the government can keep tabs on you. Just because you have nothing to hide doesn't mean you can become a victim of an error as well. Take this story http://www.wired.com/2015/10/familial-dna-evidence-turns-innocent-people-into-crime-suspects/ http://www.wired.com/2015/10/familial-dna-evidence-turns-inn... where a man who "has nothing to hide" and innocent became the suspect in a murder due to him sharing similar DNA It could be you one day, you don't know.

pjc50 11y ago

You can also be tagged in other people's posts, which you have to actively remove from photos (and I don't think it's possible to remove name-references in text at all). Your group of friends is not a representative sample, and neither is mine.

TeMPOraL 11y ago
There's a setting that makes tagging require you verify and accept the post/photo. I.e. when I turn it on, you can type the letters making up my name, but without my explicit consent given on a case-by-case basis, the name won't turn into a link to my profile. Not everyone enables it, but it's not an obscure feature either. Also, some combinations of privacy settings make you disappear from the tagging suggestion lists completely, but I haven't figured out how it works yet.
- golemotron 11y ago
  > There's a setting that makes tagging require you verify and accept the post/photo. Where is that?
  - rtpg 11y ago
    there's Timeline review (though I don't think it's exactly what he's saying, it lets pictures tagged with you avoid your wall unless you explicitly accept it)
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    Went and checked. There are two things you can do: 1) The second option on Settings/Privacy page controls how things you're tagged in end up on your timeline. On my account there's a link that to the Timeline Review page[0], on which you can enable or disable reviewing things before they become visible on your timeline. 2) There's a whole Settings page for Timeline and Tagging[1]. There you can control who can post on your timeline, how tagging you will work, whether your friends will see posts you get tagged in and whether or not you appear in tag suggestions. The tagging options work across Facebook, not just for your timeline. [0] - https://www.facebook.com/INSERT_PROFILE_NAME/allactivity?log_filter=review&privacy_source=privacy_settings_page https://www.facebook.com/INSERT_PROFILE_NAME/allactivity?log... [1] - https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=timeline https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=timeline