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Hell yes. Watching packer shit a brick 5 times a day trying to upload virtualbox guest additions via WinRM makes me want this yesterday. Also I had to up the m

by togusa 11y ago

Hell yes. Watching packer shit a brick 5 times a day trying to upload virtualbox guest additions via WinRM makes me want this yesterday. Also I had to up the memory ceiling on WinRM to 800Mb (WTF!) to even get it to complete.

MichaelGG 11y ago
It really is surprisingly bad, isn't it? I recently was involved in a continuous deployment system targeting Windows. We simply couldn't get WinRM to reliably upload fast and ended up installing SSH everywhere.
- togusa 11y ago
  Yep definitely the worst thing ever. Not just that though; everything. I've lost so much hair in the last few months over trying to get a CD environment up on windows.
  - switch007 11y ago
    This. Everything about Windows and automation just feels like Bill & co really hates you personally, hates your company, and even the air you breath
    - DiabloD3 11y ago
      ... while also hating malaria.
      - switch007 11y ago
        I have a lot of respect for Bill Gates. If he could just pay for a replacement desk after I smashed it so hard out of Windows rage ... ;-)
- jen20 11y ago
  Having worked on that code (in Packer) - the WinRM protocol is completely unsuitable for use as an SCP replacement. It's amazing it works at all even for small files! The actual "winrmcp" implementation is here https://github.com/packer-community/winrmcp https://github.com/packer-community/winrmcp if you're interested in the inner workings.
  - MichaelGG 11y ago
    OK, but that code (cp.go) uploads base64 chunks of 8K and echo's them to a file and decodes when done. That surely isn't the real WinRM file copy implementation right? Well... I just went looking for how it's implemented and holy shit I don't think they considered this case. Top results say "use a file share". Wow. I feel less inadequate.
    - togusa 11y ago
      Yep that's horrible whatever the basis for it is.
  - togusa 11y ago
    Oh wow that's just horrible. I wish I hadn't looked now!
antod 11y ago
I can't help but nod knowingly :) I was so keen for WinRM support to land in Packer so I could avoid installing cygwin. It was out of the frying pan and into the fire. Native Windows SSH should _hopefully_ solve all this hassle.

by togusa 11y ago

MichaelGG 11y ago

It really is surprisingly bad, isn't it? I recently was involved in a continuous deployment system targeting Windows. We simply couldn't get WinRM to reliably upload fast and ended up installing SSH everywhere.

togusa 11y ago
Yep definitely the worst thing ever. Not just that though; everything. I've lost so much hair in the last few months over trying to get a CD environment up on windows.
- switch007 11y ago
  This. Everything about Windows and automation just feels like Bill & co really hates you personally, hates your company, and even the air you breath
  - DiabloD3 11y ago
    ... while also hating malaria.
    - switch007 11y ago
      I have a lot of respect for Bill Gates. If he could just pay for a replacement desk after I smashed it so hard out of Windows rage ... ;-)
jen20 11y ago
Having worked on that code (in Packer) - the WinRM protocol is completely unsuitable for use as an SCP replacement. It's amazing it works at all even for small files! The actual "winrmcp" implementation is here https://github.com/packer-community/winrmcp https://github.com/packer-community/winrmcp if you're interested in the inner workings.
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  OK, but that code (cp.go) uploads base64 chunks of 8K and echo's them to a file and decodes when done. That surely isn't the real WinRM file copy implementation right? Well... I just went looking for how it's implemented and holy shit I don't think they considered this case. Top results say "use a file share". Wow. I feel less inadequate.
  - togusa 11y ago
    Yep that's horrible whatever the basis for it is.
- togusa 11y ago
  Oh wow that's just horrible. I wish I hadn't looked now!

antod 11y ago

I can't help but nod knowingly :) I was so keen for WinRM support to land in Packer so I could avoid installing cygwin. It was out of the frying pan and into the fire. Native Windows SSH should _hopefully_ solve all this hassle.