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My theory is that people are dissatisfied with what the "debt to society" is. How can you blame them. If you have loved ones who were attacked, how would you f

My theory is that people are dissatisfied with what the "debt to society" is. How can you blame them. If you have loved ones who were attacked, how would you feel if the criminal only got 180 hours of community service for sexual assault? http://www.stoppa-pedofilerna.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Sundsvalls-TR-B-1018-15-Dom-2015-06-24.pdf http://www.stoppa-pedofilerna.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/...

ploxiln 11y ago
Well in the US, "sex offenders" (including public urination and some people not actually convicted of doing what is alleged) are marked for life and need to inform their neighbors of their shunned status whenever they move. (On the down side, some people like me don't take "sexual offender" status seriously because it's so often mis-applied.)
- tgflynn 11y ago
  Not to mention that many (maybe even most) felony convictions are for victimless "crimes" like drug possession or for property offenses where no one has suffered any kind of irreperable harm.
- kevin_thibedeau 11y ago
  Murderers get better treatment after release than low level sex offenders who committed victimless crimes. A sad reflection on a society that consumes violence for entertainment but is deathly afraid of all sexual matters.
  - the_ancient 11y ago
    That is because in todays society Violence is Acceptable, Sex is not. Porn is icky, disgusting, and distasteful A movie with torture, graphic violence, and gore is a fun friday evening.
    - lsaferite 11y ago
      In the US. Go to some place like Germany and notice they are very anti-violence and more sexually open. You see nudity on German broadcast television but not graphic violence. I'd say their priorities are much better in that regard.
- seanflyon 11y ago
  > not actually convicted of doing what is alleged Do you mean "not actually guilty even though they were found guilty" or do we put people on sex offender registries without due process?
  - ploxiln 11y ago
    I was wrong about that. I thought there were cases where accusation + not (yet) being proved innocent was enough to get on the list. But a look at wikipedia shows that some kind of conviction or guilty plea is always involved. But there is this about the UK: "and unconvicted people thought to be at risk of offending" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registry#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registry#United_K...

ploxiln 11y ago

Well in the US, "sex offenders" (including public urination and some people not actually convicted of doing what is alleged) are marked for life and need to inform their neighbors of their shunned status whenever they move. (On the down side, some people like me don't take "sexual offender" status seriously because it's so often mis-applied.)

tgflynn 11y ago
Not to mention that many (maybe even most) felony convictions are for victimless "crimes" like drug possession or for property offenses where no one has suffered any kind of irreperable harm.
kevin_thibedeau 11y ago
Murderers get better treatment after release than low level sex offenders who committed victimless crimes. A sad reflection on a society that consumes violence for entertainment but is deathly afraid of all sexual matters.
- the_ancient 11y ago
  That is because in todays society Violence is Acceptable, Sex is not. Porn is icky, disgusting, and distasteful A movie with torture, graphic violence, and gore is a fun friday evening.
  - lsaferite 11y ago
    In the US. Go to some place like Germany and notice they are very anti-violence and more sexually open. You see nudity on German broadcast television but not graphic violence. I'd say their priorities are much better in that regard.
seanflyon 11y ago
> not actually convicted of doing what is alleged Do you mean "not actually guilty even though they were found guilty" or do we put people on sex offender registries without due process?
- ploxiln 11y ago
  I was wrong about that. I thought there were cases where accusation + not (yet) being proved innocent was enough to get on the list. But a look at wikipedia shows that some kind of conviction or guilty plea is always involved. But there is this about the UK: "and unconvicted people thought to be at risk of offending" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registry#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registry#United_K...