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I'm surprised there are any homeless people in the Netherlands.
by hnpc123 11y ago
I'm surprised there are any homeless people in the Netherlands.
- johan_larson 11y agoSome people refuse even pointed attempts to help them. They'll say no to shelters; they'll say no to social workers; they'll even say no to the police. And the bar for involuntary confinement is high in some places.
- sliverstorm 11y agoHe might also have been thinking about the "winter" [0] part. [0] http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/climate/The-Netherlands.htm http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/climate/The-Netherlan...
- PaulHoule 11y agoA fairly common situation in the U.S. is that people with drug and alcohol problems usually need to get clean before they get housed and it is not at all easy to get clean if you are not housed. In my immediate area social services are very good and anybody who is on the street who will comply with what DSS mandates can get off the street pretty quick, but many people won't do it for many reasons.
- coldtea 11y ago>A fairly common situation in the U.S. is that people with drug and alcohol problems usually need to get clean before they get housed and it is not at all easy to get clean if you are not housed. Hurray for protestant ethics in 2015. As if a drug-using homeless person doesn't need shelter...
- kansface 11y agoThey evidently don't in LA or SF (as opposed to Norway in the winter). Otherwise, we would necessarily see far lower rates of homelessness in those places.
- coldtea 11y agoYeah, because SF winter is warn and fuzzy. Is the weather in NY "much more hospitable" than that of the Netherlands? Because it has as many homeless as in LA.
- ipsin 11y agoUtah's taken a different approach, and it seems to have worked pretty well, though I'm not sure how many urban cities want to (or can) follow that lead. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-housing-first-20150524-story.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-housing-first-20150...