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The software companies themselves often argue that they don' really want software patents. However, the fact that other can file patents puts them into a positi

The software companies themselves often argue that they don' really want software patents. However, the fact that other can file patents puts them into a position where they need to file patents themselves for protection. It's just a stupid arms race. Now and then, a patent troll with noting to lose shows up and shakes up the picture. You could call it a sort of IP terrorism :-)

seldo 17y ago
I think using the phrase "IP terrorist" rather than "patent troll" would make it much easier to sell to congress why these patents are a bad idea.
- steveklabnik 17y ago
  But you _know_ "IP Terrorist" will be associated with filesharers, and not trolls.
rbanffy 17y ago
IIRC i4i is not a patent troll. It's a company with real products, users and - and that prevents it from being called a patent troll - probably licenses the patents from others. I am all in for banning obvious or bad patents, as well as shortening their duration, but, perhaps, the i4i patents may be really original or innovative. Microsoft is known for talking partnership, maybe acquisition, learning all they can and then launching a competitor that kills their "partner". Having strategic patents is the only way a small company can defend from this. Also, I like the way their name sounds. Sounds appropriate.
- steveklabnik 17y ago
  I mean, they're not a troll in the way that they're developing their product, but they're a troll in the way that their patent is for a way of editing custom XML. Really?
  - rbanffy 17y ago
    They have declared OpenOffice.org does not infringe. The patent then must be something pretty narrow.
    - steveklabnik 17y ago
      Here's the patent in question: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5787449.PN.&OS=PN/5787449&RS=PN/5787449 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sec... It's not really.

seldo 17y ago

I think using the phrase "IP terrorist" rather than "patent troll" would make it much easier to sell to congress why these patents are a bad idea.

steveklabnik 17y ago
But you _know_ "IP Terrorist" will be associated with filesharers, and not trolls.

rbanffy 17y ago

IIRC i4i is not a patent troll. It's a company with real products, users and - and that prevents it from being called a patent troll - probably licenses the patents from others. I am all in for banning obvious or bad patents, as well as shortening their duration, but, perhaps, the i4i patents may be really original or innovative. Microsoft is known for talking partnership, maybe acquisition, learning all they can and then launching a competitor that kills their "partner". Having strategic patents is the only way a small company can defend from this. Also, I like the way their name sounds. Sounds appropriate.

steveklabnik 17y ago
I mean, they're not a troll in the way that they're developing their product, but they're a troll in the way that their patent is for a way of editing custom XML. Really?
- rbanffy 17y ago
  They have declared OpenOffice.org does not infringe. The patent then must be something pretty narrow.
  - steveklabnik 17y ago
    Here's the patent in question: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5787449.PN.&OS=PN/5787449&RS=PN/5787449 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sec... It's not really.