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My experience from a decade ago was different than most here, I had not so much luck with CPAN. Many libraries and projects, but most of them alpha or abandone

My experience from a decade ago was different than most here, I had not so much luck with CPAN. Many libraries and projects, but most of them alpha or abandoned. It took a lot of time to find stuff that was built well enough for production and was still maintained.

IndianAstronaut 11y ago
In that sense CRAN is better maintained. It has to keep up with the changing R environment or it doesn't get included anymore IIRC.
Mithaldu 11y ago
What exactly were you looking for? Which libraries did you find that were alpha or abandoned? It's highly likely that your experience was simply due to the problem domain you were looking at. If i were to look at something i work with, 3d graphics, my results would look much the same as what you said. That doesn't mean all of CPAN's like that though.
- Hosohoso 11y ago
  Web development.
  - Mithaldu 11y ago
    At that time CGI::Application was way out of alpha and actively maintained.
    - Hosohoso 11y ago
      I prefer using libaries instead of developing everything on my own, so usually I use 10-20 libraries for a project beyond a web framework, e.g. credit card management, HTTP library,.... YMMV and if a web framework is all you need, hurray to you.
      - smonff 11y ago
        This is precisely one of the things that CPAN allows.
      - Mithaldu 11y ago
        I asked for "What exactly were you looking for? Which libraries did you find that were alpha or abandoned?" You only said "Web development." Now you're addressing completely different problem domains, so if you don't like my answer, than that is because your initial answer to my question wasn't very clear. Were my questions unclear?
        Hosohoso 11y ago
        Not sure why you agressivly attack me. But sorry. This was more than a decade ago, I've done dozens and dozens of projects since then with Java, C, Ruby, Python, Clojure, Scala, Javascript, Coffescript and Typescript and more, so I can't remember 'exactly' what libaries I was using more than 10 years ago in some Perl projects. "Now you're addressing completely different" I beg to differ, in my book credit card processing during e-commerce checkou and accessing backend services with HTTP are in the problem domain of 'web development', but it might be different for your 'web applications'.
        Mithaldu 11y ago
        I'm not attacking, i'm trying to figure out your case, because i occasionally hear people voicing a sentiment as in your original post, but never with actual detail. I'm just curious and wish to know more about this. :) And sure, i didn't really expect you to remember what you did find. But while your response of "web development" does include credit card and http stuff, it only does so roughly. Many many web apps don't use either. That said, at that time both LWP and Business::CreditCard were in what looks like sensible states: https://metacpan.org/release/GAAS/libwww-perl-5.803 https://metacpan.org/release/GAAS/libwww-perl-5.803 https://metacpan.org/release/IVAN/Business-CreditCard-0.28 https://metacpan.org/release/IVAN/Business-CreditCard-0.28 Did the search interface at the time not surface them for you, or were they incompatible with what you were trying to do?

IndianAstronaut 11y ago

In that sense CRAN is better maintained. It has to keep up with the changing R environment or it doesn't get included anymore IIRC.

Mithaldu 11y ago

What exactly were you looking for? Which libraries did you find that were alpha or abandoned? It's highly likely that your experience was simply due to the problem domain you were looking at. If i were to look at something i work with, 3d graphics, my results would look much the same as what you said. That doesn't mean all of CPAN's like that though.

Hosohoso 11y ago
Web development.
- Mithaldu 11y ago
  At that time CGI::Application was way out of alpha and actively maintained.
  - Hosohoso 11y ago
    I prefer using libaries instead of developing everything on my own, so usually I use 10-20 libraries for a project beyond a web framework, e.g. credit card management, HTTP library,.... YMMV and if a web framework is all you need, hurray to you.
    - smonff 11y ago
      This is precisely one of the things that CPAN allows.
    - Mithaldu 11y ago
      I asked for "What exactly were you looking for? Which libraries did you find that were alpha or abandoned?" You only said "Web development." Now you're addressing completely different problem domains, so if you don't like my answer, than that is because your initial answer to my question wasn't very clear. Were my questions unclear?
      - Hosohoso 11y ago
        Not sure why you agressivly attack me. But sorry. This was more than a decade ago, I've done dozens and dozens of projects since then with Java, C, Ruby, Python, Clojure, Scala, Javascript, Coffescript and Typescript and more, so I can't remember 'exactly' what libaries I was using more than 10 years ago in some Perl projects. "Now you're addressing completely different" I beg to differ, in my book credit card processing during e-commerce checkou and accessing backend services with HTTP are in the problem domain of 'web development', but it might be different for your 'web applications'.
        Mithaldu 11y ago
        I'm not attacking, i'm trying to figure out your case, because i occasionally hear people voicing a sentiment as in your original post, but never with actual detail. I'm just curious and wish to know more about this. :) And sure, i didn't really expect you to remember what you did find. But while your response of "web development" does include credit card and http stuff, it only does so roughly. Many many web apps don't use either. That said, at that time both LWP and Business::CreditCard were in what looks like sensible states: https://metacpan.org/release/GAAS/libwww-perl-5.803 https://metacpan.org/release/GAAS/libwww-perl-5.803 https://metacpan.org/release/IVAN/Business-CreditCard-0.28 https://metacpan.org/release/IVAN/Business-CreditCard-0.28 Did the search interface at the time not surface them for you, or were they incompatible with what you were trying to do?