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Hi Andrew. I'm really sorry that you went through that. We know and acknowledge that our hiring process isn't perfect - I can't count the number of conversation
by liyanchang 11y ago
Hi Andrew. I'm really sorry that you went through that. We know and acknowledge that our hiring process isn't perfect - I can't count the number of conversations where we at USDS share stories about how we personally were in some limbo before interviews or what we had to do to get drug tested or how we were super confused.
This of course is no excuse - there is a lot of work to be done and we are working on it.
- ritchiea 11y agoI appreciate the apology but the really disappointing thing is talking to your recruiters who say it's hard to get good technologists into government and then looking at your process that seems to exacerbate the problem.
- dragonwriter 11y ago> I appreciate the apology but the really disappointing thing is talking to your recruiters who say it's hard to get good technologists into government and then looking at your process that seems to exacerbate the problem. Not even the worst of the descriptions of experience with USDS hiring I've seen could possibly be reasonable viewed as exacerbating the problem (mitigating it less than an ideal process would, sure; but to be exacerbating, it would have to be worse than the average non-USDS public sector hiring process.)
- ritchiea 11y agoI agree with you. I misspoke above. They are not exacerbating the problem but their hiring process could be an impediment to reaching their goals.
- onion2k 11y agoEvery public-facing process a business has is part of the marketing process. If people are left with a story of how dealing with the business was a bad experience, that will affect the business's reputation. When stories like yours are common the pool of potential talent is reduced as people are put off applying in the first place. The recruiting process at the USDS is exacerbating the problem because it means that fewer candidates will apply for jobs there.
- r4vik 11y agowait what? you have to get drug tested??
- toomuchtodo 11y agoI don't believe you do for 18F, but you do for the US Digital Service, as its a part (or operates under the authority) of the executive office of the President.
- facetube 11y agoSeriously. Good software developers have other employment options that don't involve being treated like a criminal and having someone watch you urinate.
- FLUX-YOU 11y agoPiss test would turn you off of a job? Seriously? You know that is bureaucratic policy 95% of the time and not personal?
- jmckib 11y agoMost of the best coders I know would fail a drug test. It's just plain stupid. Even though I would pass one, I would never work for a company that does it.