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DigitalOcean Teams Up with Bitnami, Install Over 100 Web Apps with a Few Clicks

182 points by mitchwainer 11y ago

res0nat0r 11y ago
This has been available on AWS also: https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/search/results/ref=srh_navgno_search_box?page=1&searchTerms=bitnami https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/search/results/ref=srh_na...
- balls187 11y ago
  Don't forget VMware: https://solutionexchange.vmware.com/store/category_groups/19 https://solutionexchange.vmware.com/store/category_groups/19
  - prydonius 11y ago
    You can find our Launchpad for VMware vCloud Air here at https://vmware.bitnami.com/ https://vmware.bitnami.com/. Check out https://bitnami.com/cloud https://bitnami.com/cloud to find out about some of the other cloud platforms we've partnered with.
- crb 11y ago
  and Google Cloud Platform: https://google.bitnami.com/ https://google.bitnami.com/
- Uffizi 11y ago
  A few months ago I noticed there was not a novice user step-by-step guide for installing WordPress on AWS, so I threw together https://howtoinstallonaws.com https://howtoinstallonaws.com. Bitnami really makes it quite painless.
  - jeffbarr 11y ago
    That's cool but your https comes back as untrusted.
manishsharan 11y ago
I like Bitnami and I am a big fan. However, when deploying Jboss, Glassfish and Tomcat application servers from Bitnami onto AWS, I have found that you need to configure the application server specs based on the specs of your host EC2 -- I ended up creating custom images for each type of EC2 in my inventory for these application servers.
- irishcoffee 11y ago
  Slightly OT but I'm curious: do you like jboss and glassfish? I've used both pretty extensively, and am not a big fan of either one. Could have been user error though, not application error.
  - manishsharan 11y ago
    Like may be too strong a word to use. But if you are doing EJB and MDBs, then they both are the only options , unless you go the weblogic/websphere route. I would not touch either with a 20 foot pole for a non-ejb application with no session replication requirements.
- prydonius 11y ago
  Hi Manish, Our images do change some configuration options based on the type of instance that we detect on boot. It would be great if you could get in touch with us at hello@bitnami.com and let us know the details of what you had to configure manually, so that we can improve this.
melling 11y ago
How's Wordpress on Digital Ocean? Will the $10 plan work well as a starter site?
- chrisan 11y ago
  a $5 will work well starting out: http://www.narga.net/recommended-nginx-configuration-high-traffic-wordpress/ http://www.narga.net/recommended-nginx-configuration-high-tr... (I think they use affiliate links in that post, just FYI)
- paradite 11y ago
  I used to run WP on $5 plan but the memory soon runs out (with the recommended swap config). The next tier seems to be working fine for the past few months.
  - ridruejo 11y ago
    You definitely need to be careful how to configure things, but enabling caching, event MPM + php-fpm, mod_pagespeed, etc. like we do in our Bitnami images helps a lot. The good thing is that it is relatively painless to resize if you need to.
- arunpn123 11y ago
  I am running Wordpress on a $5 plan for my personal website. Also paying $1 extra per month for backups. While requesting for an OS image to install, you can choose to install Wordpress on it from their menu. It is a no-frills simple setup if you want to go the self-hosting route.
- ohashi 11y ago
  Out of the box? Performance isn't great. However, it's not hard to get some stupid fast cached performance. I wrote about it here: http://reviewsignal.com/blog/2014/06/25/40-million-hits-a-day-on-wordpress-using-a-10-vps/ http://reviewsignal.com/blog/2014/06/25/40-million-hits-a-da... full configs are available on github (and more updated). There are also a lot of other companies/packages to help you setup faster stacks that are more maintained than what I did. easyEngine or ServerPilot being two examples.
chm 11y ago
I don't see the Bitnami apps when I try to create a droplet. Where do I find them? Edit: It seems I need to register on Bitnami's website.
- prydonius 11y ago
  You can head to https://digitalocean.bitnami.com/ https://digitalocean.bitnami.com/ to launch a Bitnami app in your DigitalOcean account.
steeples 11y ago
Wordpress is awful on DO and many things can and do break. Trust me, I've been developing with Wordpress for over a decade, and WP on a VPS is a whole different kettle of fish. Whether it's hardening the VPS to avoid a DDOS, or auto-patching Ubuntu when OpenSSL gets another vulnerability. It's quite mightmarish. DO is good for things like Gitlab and VPNs and things like that, but good luck trying to get something bulletproof and high availability. It's a devops nightmare. It can be achieved, but it takes some time...
- TheHippo 11y ago
  Wordpress is awful on a self-managed VPS, this has nothing to do with DO.
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  - bpicolo 11y ago
    You mean wordpress is totally fine on a self-managed VPS assuming you know how to manage it. Same as literally every other application?
    - derefr 11y ago
      I think the actual meaning being lost in translation here is "self-managing things is awful"—which it is, if you are a dev and don't want to be burdened with ops.
  - moron4hire 11y ago
    This is why I'm ditching it and going back to static HTML for my corporate site. As a small consulting shop, we just don't have the time or resources to worry about "WTF is wrong now?"
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stoic 11y ago
hey, looks a bit like quickinstall at hostgator
jsamuel 11y ago
Though ServerPilot focuses more on ongoing server management (e.g. updates, control panel, monitoring, support) for DigitalOcean servers rather than one-click installers, there is now a one-click WordPress installer. https://serverpilot.io/blog/2015/07/22/one-click-wordpress-and-automatic-serverpilot-installer.html https://serverpilot.io/blog/2015/07/22/one-click-wordpress-a...
sytse 11y ago
The Bitnami images for GitLab are impossible to upgrade automatically and are a worse experience than our Omnibus packages. I hope Bitnami addresses this soon.
jtwebman 11y ago
I will stick to building the machines myself. These just seem dangerous. If I am going to use these I should just host on HostGator.
- BufordTJustice 11y ago
  I agree, I think if you're going to deploy an application that's facing the internet, it makes sense to take the time to roll the deployment scripts (Salt, Ansible, etc.) and understand at some level what is getting installed, as well as how it's configured and how what needs to be setup for security, rather than just trusting the image.
tobbyb 11y ago
Flockport provides something similar but with containers https://www.flockport.com/store https://www.flockport.com/store We have a fledgling app store with over 30 apps that can be deployed on any Linux server in minutes. It's completely free. The advantage with using containers as opposed to VMs is containers are portable so you are not stuck to any server or cloud provider. Your apps are portable, and cloning, snapshots and backups become simpler. The advantage of using LXC is the entire stack can be in one container and the environment is more like an OS that users are familiar with. Users can use the flockport utility to pull the app and then directly get to the App dashboard, without all the installation and configuration hassles of a typical stack. And Flockport apps should work with nspawn and other container managers.
frik 11y ago
Aren't those the guys who took over XAMPP? (portable dev LAMP for various OS incl Windows)
- ridruejo 11y ago
  Correct, we are the current maintainers for XAMPP. We also have our own LAMP/WAMP/MAMP stacks
justinator 11y ago
Please add Dada Mail [0] to your DO offerings. It's already available on the Mojo Marketplace, Softaculous, Installtron, etc, It comes bundled with a CLI installer, which would be trivial to utilize when automating the install process. [0] http://dadamailproject.com http://dadamailproject.com
- prydonius 11y ago
  Bitnami runs a monthly contest[0] where you can vote for your favourite application to be packaged. I couldn't find an entry for Dada Mail, but you can go ahead and submit it for review[1] and we can add it to the contest. [0] https://bitnami.com/contest https://bitnami.com/contest [1] https://bitnami.com/contest/new_application https://bitnami.com/contest/new_application
  - justinator 11y ago
    I'm not really interested in a somewhat gamification for the inclusion of the app into the lineup. The winners are first the users, who have an easier way to install the app (it's already given away for free) and you, which are given another solid app to offer. I don't really get anything by entering the app in a contest. I'm not really interested in contesting the app at all. But, to give your users more choice on what to use? Again a total win for you.
    - ridruejo 11y ago
      We have literally hundreds of open source projects that want to be part of Bitnami and limited resources. The contest is the best way we could come up with to help us prioritize
- johnmertic 11y ago
  Ping me at John at Bitnami dot com to chat about this. Happy to see what we can do to help y'all out ;-)
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zimbatm 11y ago
https://www.vultr.com/ https://www.vultr.com/ is like DO except it allows arbitrary ISO and iPXE. No need to wait on DigitalOcean for them to provide your OS. They also have IPv6, private IPs and more locations. And it's a bit cheaper.
jedisct1 11y ago
https://sandstorm.io/ https://sandstorm.io/ remains the best option for packaging webapps IMHO.
erlend_sh 11y ago
> DigitalOcean users get two free months of Bitnami access. Uh, I don't really understand what "Bitnami access" constitutes. Once I've done the install, I don't really need Bitnami for anything more, right? right? Does that mean everyone who wants to do a Bitnami-powered install should hurry up and do it now, before they have to pay to get access to the Bitnami installer?
- ridruejo 11y ago
  The reporter got it wrong, it is the other way around. The Bitnami launchpad is completely free

182 points by mitchwainer 11y ago

This has been available on AWS also: https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/search/results/ref=srh_navgno_search_box?page=1&searchTerms=bitnami https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/search/results/ref=srh_na...

balls187 11y ago
Don't forget VMware: https://solutionexchange.vmware.com/store/category_groups/19 https://solutionexchange.vmware.com/store/category_groups/19
- prydonius 11y ago
  You can find our Launchpad for VMware vCloud Air here at https://vmware.bitnami.com/ https://vmware.bitnami.com/. Check out https://bitnami.com/cloud https://bitnami.com/cloud to find out about some of the other cloud platforms we've partnered with.
crb 11y ago
and Google Cloud Platform: https://google.bitnami.com/ https://google.bitnami.com/
Uffizi 11y ago
A few months ago I noticed there was not a novice user step-by-step guide for installing WordPress on AWS, so I threw together https://howtoinstallonaws.com https://howtoinstallonaws.com. Bitnami really makes it quite painless.
- jeffbarr 11y ago
  That's cool but your https comes back as untrusted.

manishsharan 11y ago

I like Bitnami and I am a big fan. However, when deploying Jboss, Glassfish and Tomcat application servers from Bitnami onto AWS, I have found that you need to configure the application server specs based on the specs of your host EC2 -- I ended up creating custom images for each type of EC2 in my inventory for these application servers.

irishcoffee 11y ago
Slightly OT but I'm curious: do you like jboss and glassfish? I've used both pretty extensively, and am not a big fan of either one. Could have been user error though, not application error.
- manishsharan 11y ago
  Like may be too strong a word to use. But if you are doing EJB and MDBs, then they both are the only options , unless you go the weblogic/websphere route. I would not touch either with a 20 foot pole for a non-ejb application with no session replication requirements.
prydonius 11y ago
Hi Manish, Our images do change some configuration options based on the type of instance that we detect on boot. It would be great if you could get in touch with us at hello@bitnami.com and let us know the details of what you had to configure manually, so that we can improve this.

melling 11y ago

How's Wordpress on Digital Ocean? Will the $10 plan work well as a starter site?

chrisan 11y ago
a $5 will work well starting out: http://www.narga.net/recommended-nginx-configuration-high-traffic-wordpress/ http://www.narga.net/recommended-nginx-configuration-high-tr... (I think they use affiliate links in that post, just FYI)
paradite 11y ago
I used to run WP on $5 plan but the memory soon runs out (with the recommended swap config). The next tier seems to be working fine for the past few months.
- ridruejo 11y ago
  You definitely need to be careful how to configure things, but enabling caching, event MPM + php-fpm, mod_pagespeed, etc. like we do in our Bitnami images helps a lot. The good thing is that it is relatively painless to resize if you need to.
arunpn123 11y ago
I am running Wordpress on a $5 plan for my personal website. Also paying $1 extra per month for backups. While requesting for an OS image to install, you can choose to install Wordpress on it from their menu. It is a no-frills simple setup if you want to go the self-hosting route.
ohashi 11y ago
Out of the box? Performance isn't great. However, it's not hard to get some stupid fast cached performance. I wrote about it here: http://reviewsignal.com/blog/2014/06/25/40-million-hits-a-day-on-wordpress-using-a-10-vps/ http://reviewsignal.com/blog/2014/06/25/40-million-hits-a-da... full configs are available on github (and more updated). There are also a lot of other companies/packages to help you setup faster stacks that are more maintained than what I did. easyEngine or ServerPilot being two examples.

chm 11y ago

I don't see the Bitnami apps when I try to create a droplet. Where do I find them? Edit: It seems I need to register on Bitnami's website.

prydonius 11y ago
You can head to https://digitalocean.bitnami.com/ https://digitalocean.bitnami.com/ to launch a Bitnami app in your DigitalOcean account.

steeples 11y ago

Wordpress is awful on DO and many things can and do break. Trust me, I've been developing with Wordpress for over a decade, and WP on a VPS is a whole different kettle of fish. Whether it's hardening the VPS to avoid a DDOS, or auto-patching Ubuntu when OpenSSL gets another vulnerability. It's quite mightmarish. DO is good for things like Gitlab and VPNs and things like that, but good luck trying to get something bulletproof and high availability. It's a devops nightmare. It can be achieved, but it takes some time...

TheHippo 11y ago
Wordpress is awful on a self-managed VPS, this has nothing to do with DO.
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- bpicolo 11y ago
  You mean wordpress is totally fine on a self-managed VPS assuming you know how to manage it. Same as literally every other application?
  - derefr 11y ago
    I think the actual meaning being lost in translation here is "self-managing things is awful"—which it is, if you are a dev and don't want to be burdened with ops.
- moron4hire 11y ago
  This is why I'm ditching it and going back to static HTML for my corporate site. As a small consulting shop, we just don't have the time or resources to worry about "WTF is wrong now?"
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stoic 11y ago

hey, looks a bit like quickinstall at hostgator

jsamuel 11y ago

Though ServerPilot focuses more on ongoing server management (e.g. updates, control panel, monitoring, support) for DigitalOcean servers rather than one-click installers, there is now a one-click WordPress installer. https://serverpilot.io/blog/2015/07/22/one-click-wordpress-and-automatic-serverpilot-installer.html https://serverpilot.io/blog/2015/07/22/one-click-wordpress-a...

sytse 11y ago

The Bitnami images for GitLab are impossible to upgrade automatically and are a worse experience than our Omnibus packages. I hope Bitnami addresses this soon.

jtwebman 11y ago

I will stick to building the machines myself. These just seem dangerous. If I am going to use these I should just host on HostGator.

BufordTJustice 11y ago
I agree, I think if you're going to deploy an application that's facing the internet, it makes sense to take the time to roll the deployment scripts (Salt, Ansible, etc.) and understand at some level what is getting installed, as well as how it's configured and how what needs to be setup for security, rather than just trusting the image.

tobbyb 11y ago

Flockport provides something similar but with containers https://www.flockport.com/store https://www.flockport.com/store We have a fledgling app store with over 30 apps that can be deployed on any Linux server in minutes. It's completely free. The advantage with using containers as opposed to VMs is containers are portable so you are not stuck to any server or cloud provider. Your apps are portable, and cloning, snapshots and backups become simpler. The advantage of using LXC is the entire stack can be in one container and the environment is more like an OS that users are familiar with. Users can use the flockport utility to pull the app and then directly get to the App dashboard, without all the installation and configuration hassles of a typical stack. And Flockport apps should work with nspawn and other container managers.

frik 11y ago

Aren't those the guys who took over XAMPP? (portable dev LAMP for various OS incl Windows)

ridruejo 11y ago
Correct, we are the current maintainers for XAMPP. We also have our own LAMP/WAMP/MAMP stacks

justinator 11y ago

Please add Dada Mail [0] to your DO offerings. It's already available on the Mojo Marketplace, Softaculous, Installtron, etc, It comes bundled with a CLI installer, which would be trivial to utilize when automating the install process. [0] http://dadamailproject.com http://dadamailproject.com

prydonius 11y ago
Bitnami runs a monthly contest[0] where you can vote for your favourite application to be packaged. I couldn't find an entry for Dada Mail, but you can go ahead and submit it for review[1] and we can add it to the contest. [0] https://bitnami.com/contest https://bitnami.com/contest [1] https://bitnami.com/contest/new_application https://bitnami.com/contest/new_application
- justinator 11y ago
  I'm not really interested in a somewhat gamification for the inclusion of the app into the lineup. The winners are first the users, who have an easier way to install the app (it's already given away for free) and you, which are given another solid app to offer. I don't really get anything by entering the app in a contest. I'm not really interested in contesting the app at all. But, to give your users more choice on what to use? Again a total win for you.
  - ridruejo 11y ago
    We have literally hundreds of open source projects that want to be part of Bitnami and limited resources. The contest is the best way we could come up with to help us prioritize
johnmertic 11y ago
Ping me at John at Bitnami dot com to chat about this. Happy to see what we can do to help y'all out ;-)

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zimbatm 11y ago

https://www.vultr.com/ https://www.vultr.com/ is like DO except it allows arbitrary ISO and iPXE. No need to wait on DigitalOcean for them to provide your OS. They also have IPv6, private IPs and more locations. And it's a bit cheaper.

jedisct1 11y ago

https://sandstorm.io/ https://sandstorm.io/ remains the best option for packaging webapps IMHO.

erlend_sh 11y ago

> DigitalOcean users get two free months of Bitnami access. Uh, I don't really understand what "Bitnami access" constitutes. Once I've done the install, I don't really need Bitnami for anything more, right? right? Does that mean everyone who wants to do a Bitnami-powered install should hurry up and do it now, before they have to pay to get access to the Bitnami installer?

ridruejo 11y ago
The reporter got it wrong, it is the other way around. The Bitnami launchpad is completely free