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What is the "jogging" of today? Gluten free diets? I could see it become mainstream once science has studied it more extensively, but today if you don't have co

What is the "jogging" of today? Gluten free diets? I could see it become mainstream once science has studied it more extensively, but today if you don't have coeliac disease and decide to go gluten-free, you're labeled as nuts right away.

jusben1369 11y ago
I don't know if you're labelled as "nuts" right away but you are sometimes assumed to be prone to the latest dietary trends. As this article points out jogging actually did have measurable, real health benefits. It's not clear if going GF if you don't suffer celiac does. BTW my child suffers from celiac at I've gone GF with her for extended periods of time. Turns out going GF usually also means dramatically dropping your intake of salt and sugars (processed pastas, breads, desserts etc) so I believe that many people really _do_ feel better. Of course with the widestream acceptance of GF there are now many straight up substitutes/replacements so that benefit will likely disappear.
- alistairSH 11y ago
  Of course with the widestream acceptance of GF there are now many straight up substitutes/replacements so that benefit will likely disappear. It's a double-edged sword. Yes, lots of grocers and chefs now provide gluten-free substitutes. And some of those options are quite good. But, with the wide-spread fad, I have to very careful when ordering that the wait staff knows I have an actual allergy and not just a preference.
Someone1234 11y ago
I really don't understand the whole "hate," in particular on the internet, for people who eat Gluten free food. Who really cares? It doesn't harm you or I if someone chooses to avoid Gluten, it doesn't hurt the environment, it doesn't cause a public health issue, and so on and so fourth. But people get really upset about the oddest stuff that have no impact on them (e.g. others playing the lottery, vegetarians, how others dress, their games console of choice, their phone maker, etc). None of it matters, people could do well by just minding their own business more. As to Gluten, I myself won't be doing a Gluten free diet, but people who wish to more power to you and as a positive spin it might make foods more accessible for people with coeliac.
- nilkn 11y ago
  People generally react strongly (and negatively) to what they perceive to be irrational behavior in others. I think there's a strong human instinct to want to set the correct precedent for others and for future generations, which leads to this sort of reaction when we feel as if someone else is setting the wrong precedent. The (very implicit) fear might be that the GF trend will lead to many resources being wasted on something that doesn't matter (special GF products, restaurants, marketing materials, etc.). However, with dietary trends there's a second and possibly more powerful factor, which is that those not following the trend feel as if they're being implicitly judged by those who are. This feeling is often completely incorrect, but it's there nonetheless for many people. Ironically, the feeling itself is irrational, yet it feeds into one's own distaste for another person's (perceived) irrationality.
  - kaitai 11y ago
    I think it's the implicit judgment that is more powerful. If you were to declare, "I'm a summer; I can't ever wear yellow!" no one would care. When you refuse someone's bread, though, that's a different question. Food has historically been a way to bond, in some particularly ritualistic ways. (We "break bread together", history has people eating from the same dish to symbolically and practically show trust, etc.) Much of the current GF stuff is not that good, whether you're looking at environment, cost, culinary quality, or health benefits. Why eat a bar of tapioca starch? It tastes terrible. And my delicious almond-flour brownies are destroying the aquifers of California even though they give me a delightful 300+ calories per serving. On the other hand, the proliferation of GF goods allows people with real problems to sit down with family and friend and eat crappy sandwiches together without anyone feeling judged by the presence of a lettuce wrap, and that has its own benefits. Irrational, or not? Yes.
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- PopeOfNope 11y ago
  I really don't understand the whole "hate," in particular on the internet, for people who eat Gluten free food. Who really cares? You get the same reaction from any kind of health based diet. It makes people feel judged, like they don't eat healthy. It's also a diversion from the normal, which allows an "us vs them" line to be drawn. People are still, at their heart, tribal. It's instinct to draw those lines because, in theory, at one point in time those instincts kept their ancestors alive. tl;dr: it's human nature to hate the unusual. As for gluten-free specifically, I was gluten free for years. Eating it would provoke a systemic inflammatory reaction, yet I don't test positive for any wheat allergy, gluten intolerance or celiac. After many years of feeling pain when I eat my favorite food (pizza), I tripped on some research that suggested it may not be the gluten that was causing the problem. The research suggested that the supplementation of iron may be causing issues with some people. I also stumbled on anecdotal reports of gluten intolerant americans traveling overseas and being able to eat french pastries and italian pasta without issue. Armed with those two facts, I decided to do an n=1 experiment. I bought some italian flour and used it to make bread and pizza. My allergic-like inflammation symptoms went away and I lost 10 lbs in a week. When I ran out, I went back to store bought bread. My inflammation symptoms came back immediately. Just food for thought.
peterwwillis 11y ago
Eating gluten free when you're not gluten-intolerant is like using crutches when your legs are fine.
- kazinator 11y ago
  > Eating gluten free when you're not gluten-intolerant is like using crutches when your legs are fine. ^ And you're not a cute Japanese girl in a lolita costume, also wearing an eye patch and some bandages. In that case, crutches "work" for you.
kazinator 11y ago
A big, juicy beef steak is gluten free, and so is the sunny side egg on top of it and the bacon. I like gluten-free! :) My wife brought home some Glutino brand crackers. They are delicious. (Neither of us care about "gluten free"). If you want to really sock it to the gluten-free movement, you can buy fried gluten in a can. This is an import item you can find it in Chinese grocery stores. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_%28food%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_%28food%29 Scroll down a bit. I've known about and eaten this stuff long before the silly gluten-free fad; not a knee-jerk reaction or anything! I've also known about people with gluten issues long before the fad. I remember a co-worker telling me about her sensitivity to wheat circa 1991 and that it was the gluten. She was not self-diagnosed either. There was no reason not to take her seriously; though I hadn't heard of it before, it was entirely plausible to have an allergy to a protein in wheat. Today, most of the people who think they have a gluten problem are making it up, and that's what supports "gluten free". However, it's probably helpful to those people who do have the allergy --- assuming the foods are even for real. Half of them probably have gluten! Is this "gluten-free" designation even regulated and enforced?
- TACIXAT 11y ago
  >Today, most of the people who think they have a gluten problem are making it up Citation please? I've yet to meet anyone who was making it up. Most people just don't want to talk to a stranger about their poop.
bbcbasic 11y ago
Stand up desks.

jusben1369 11y ago

I don't know if you're labelled as "nuts" right away but you are sometimes assumed to be prone to the latest dietary trends. As this article points out jogging actually did have measurable, real health benefits. It's not clear if going GF if you don't suffer celiac does. BTW my child suffers from celiac at I've gone GF with her for extended periods of time. Turns out going GF usually also means dramatically dropping your intake of salt and sugars (processed pastas, breads, desserts etc) so I believe that many people really _do_ feel better. Of course with the widestream acceptance of GF there are now many straight up substitutes/replacements so that benefit will likely disappear.

alistairSH 11y ago
Of course with the widestream acceptance of GF there are now many straight up substitutes/replacements so that benefit will likely disappear. It's a double-edged sword. Yes, lots of grocers and chefs now provide gluten-free substitutes. And some of those options are quite good. But, with the wide-spread fad, I have to very careful when ordering that the wait staff knows I have an actual allergy and not just a preference.

Someone1234 11y ago

I really don't understand the whole "hate," in particular on the internet, for people who eat Gluten free food. Who really cares? It doesn't harm you or I if someone chooses to avoid Gluten, it doesn't hurt the environment, it doesn't cause a public health issue, and so on and so fourth. But people get really upset about the oddest stuff that have no impact on them (e.g. others playing the lottery, vegetarians, how others dress, their games console of choice, their phone maker, etc). None of it matters, people could do well by just minding their own business more. As to Gluten, I myself won't be doing a Gluten free diet, but people who wish to more power to you and as a positive spin it might make foods more accessible for people with coeliac.

nilkn 11y ago
People generally react strongly (and negatively) to what they perceive to be irrational behavior in others. I think there's a strong human instinct to want to set the correct precedent for others and for future generations, which leads to this sort of reaction when we feel as if someone else is setting the wrong precedent. The (very implicit) fear might be that the GF trend will lead to many resources being wasted on something that doesn't matter (special GF products, restaurants, marketing materials, etc.). However, with dietary trends there's a second and possibly more powerful factor, which is that those not following the trend feel as if they're being implicitly judged by those who are. This feeling is often completely incorrect, but it's there nonetheless for many people. Ironically, the feeling itself is irrational, yet it feeds into one's own distaste for another person's (perceived) irrationality.
- kaitai 11y ago
  I think it's the implicit judgment that is more powerful. If you were to declare, "I'm a summer; I can't ever wear yellow!" no one would care. When you refuse someone's bread, though, that's a different question. Food has historically been a way to bond, in some particularly ritualistic ways. (We "break bread together", history has people eating from the same dish to symbolically and practically show trust, etc.) Much of the current GF stuff is not that good, whether you're looking at environment, cost, culinary quality, or health benefits. Why eat a bar of tapioca starch? It tastes terrible. And my delicious almond-flour brownies are destroying the aquifers of California even though they give me a delightful 300+ calories per serving. On the other hand, the proliferation of GF goods allows people with real problems to sit down with family and friend and eat crappy sandwiches together without anyone feeling judged by the presence of a lettuce wrap, and that has its own benefits. Irrational, or not? Yes.
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PopeOfNope 11y ago
I really don't understand the whole "hate," in particular on the internet, for people who eat Gluten free food. Who really cares? You get the same reaction from any kind of health based diet. It makes people feel judged, like they don't eat healthy. It's also a diversion from the normal, which allows an "us vs them" line to be drawn. People are still, at their heart, tribal. It's instinct to draw those lines because, in theory, at one point in time those instincts kept their ancestors alive. tl;dr: it's human nature to hate the unusual. As for gluten-free specifically, I was gluten free for years. Eating it would provoke a systemic inflammatory reaction, yet I don't test positive for any wheat allergy, gluten intolerance or celiac. After many years of feeling pain when I eat my favorite food (pizza), I tripped on some research that suggested it may not be the gluten that was causing the problem. The research suggested that the supplementation of iron may be causing issues with some people. I also stumbled on anecdotal reports of gluten intolerant americans traveling overseas and being able to eat french pastries and italian pasta without issue. Armed with those two facts, I decided to do an n=1 experiment. I bought some italian flour and used it to make bread and pizza. My allergic-like inflammation symptoms went away and I lost 10 lbs in a week. When I ran out, I went back to store bought bread. My inflammation symptoms came back immediately. Just food for thought.

peterwwillis 11y ago

Eating gluten free when you're not gluten-intolerant is like using crutches when your legs are fine.

kazinator 11y ago
> Eating gluten free when you're not gluten-intolerant is like using crutches when your legs are fine. ^ And you're not a cute Japanese girl in a lolita costume, also wearing an eye patch and some bandages. In that case, crutches "work" for you.

kazinator 11y ago

A big, juicy beef steak is gluten free, and so is the sunny side egg on top of it and the bacon. I like gluten-free! :) My wife brought home some Glutino brand crackers. They are delicious. (Neither of us care about "gluten free"). If you want to really sock it to the gluten-free movement, you can buy fried gluten in a can. This is an import item you can find it in Chinese grocery stores. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_%28food%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_%28food%29 Scroll down a bit. I've known about and eaten this stuff long before the silly gluten-free fad; not a knee-jerk reaction or anything! I've also known about people with gluten issues long before the fad. I remember a co-worker telling me about her sensitivity to wheat circa 1991 and that it was the gluten. She was not self-diagnosed either. There was no reason not to take her seriously; though I hadn't heard of it before, it was entirely plausible to have an allergy to a protein in wheat. Today, most of the people who think they have a gluten problem are making it up, and that's what supports "gluten free". However, it's probably helpful to those people who do have the allergy --- assuming the foods are even for real. Half of them probably have gluten! Is this "gluten-free" designation even regulated and enforced?

TACIXAT 11y ago
>Today, most of the people who think they have a gluten problem are making it up Citation please? I've yet to meet anyone who was making it up. Most people just don't want to talk to a stranger about their poop.

bbcbasic 11y ago

Stand up desks.