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I just want to say (since you're here and this is a post about Gitlab) that your product is awesome. A few friends and I spun up our own instance of the CE abo
by pwny 11y ago
I just want to say (since you're here and this is a post about Gitlab) that your product is awesome.
A few friends and I spun up our own instance of the CE about a week ago because we weren't too happy about Github's stance. It was incredibly easy to set up and it works flawlessly on a small 1 core, 2Gb VM.
A little off topic but can you share the effect the recent Github stuff has had for Gitlab? Did you get a lot more traffic?
- rubiquity 11y agoI'm out of the loop I guess but what is "the recent GitHub stuff?"
- Goronmon 11y agoJust google "github open code of conduct" should provide a decent overview.
- Argorak 11y agoI did that and the first result was the GitLab code of conduct, hosted on GitHub. https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#code-of-conduct https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/blob/master/CONTRIBUTIN... You're welcome.
- sytse 11y agoGoogle 'thinks' highly of GitHub. Our CoC for GitLab the project is also hosted on GitLab.com https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#code-of-conduct https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/CONTRIBU... Our canonical source is GitLab.com https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/tree/master#canonical-source https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/tree/master#canonica...
- pervycreeper 11y agoDo you have any plans to revise that in order to preempt the sorts of problems that users are having with Github? I would imagine that most of the new users are expecting an environment there which isn't r-------.
- sytse 11y agoThat CoC is for GitLab the project. Not for GitLab.com. Right now we handle GitLab.com issues on a case by case basis. So far it was only Gamergate but I'm sure more will come up in the future. Gamergate opted to run their own GitLab instance http://gitgud.io/users/sign_in http://gitgud.io/users/sign_in
- Argorak 11y agoI'm not sure if we really need to give them further exposure?
- pervycreeper 11y agoPerhaps some transparency behind such decisions when they happen again would help maintain a relationship of good faith between GitLab and its users.
- sytse 11y agoSee our tweets in https://twitter.com/gitlab/status/519098024778530816 https://twitter.com/gitlab/status/519098024778530816
- PLCC 11y agoThe open code of conduct they have adopted. https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-condu... http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/ http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/ >Physical contact and simulated physical contact (eg, textual descriptions like “hug” or “backrub”) without consent or after a request to stop >Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort. We will not act on complaints regarding: ‘Reverse’ -isms, including ‘reverse racism,’ ‘reverse sexism,’ and ‘cisphobia’ Reasonable communication of boundaries, such as “leave me alone,” “go away,” or “I’m not discussing this with you” Refusal to explain or debate social justice concepts Communicating in a ‘tone’ you don’t find congenial Criticizing racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions >Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honor diversity in age, gender, gender identity or expression, culture, ethnicity, language, national origin, political beliefs, profession, race, religion, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, and technical ability. We will not tolerate discrimination based on any of the protected characteristics above, including participants with disabilities.
- amyjess 11y agoYes, that CoC is seriously creepy. Saying "we're going to protect some groups but not others" is absolutely abhorrent. Either forbid all racism or allow everything (and just to make this clear: I'm very much on the side of forbidding all racism, no matter what race it targets), but saying "we'll allow hate speech about one race but we'll remove hate speech about another" is the literal definition of endorsing racism. And then the bit about "tone"; they're basically saying that they explicitly allow blatant incivility. Now, that wouldn't be so bad if they had a "we never remove anything" policy, but they clearly don't. If they're going to remove bad content, then they need to have a policy of "keep a civil tongue in your mouth or get it cut out". Also, as a trans girl, I don't tolerate anyone in my life saying "die cis scum" or #KillAllMen, and I call that shit out. (edit: so, this apparently applies only to the projects GitHub maintains themselves and isn't a site-wide thing, so it's not as bad as I've feared, but I still don't like it)
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- hga 11y agoMuch more significant to me than the Code of Conduct stuff (which just continues internal stuff like the purge of their meritocracy rug) is their precipitous disappearing of a repository that described itself as "X for retards", and without notice, its forks where all the current development was. See more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118 and some discussion here WRT their recent $240M round of investment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9971946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9971946
- sytse 11y agoI just looked into it and I'm surprised that there seems to be a huge effect. See http://i.imgur.com/QGxzRau.png http://i.imgur.com/QGxzRau.png for our analytics data.
- pwny 11y agoThanks a ton! Am I really seeing a ~2x increase?
- sytse 11y agoYes, it's pretty crazy.
- incepted 11y agoIt doesn't mean anything without the Y axis. It's very easy to double numbers when these numbers are minuscule to start with.
- sytse 11y agoPlease see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10003740 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10003740 for one with numbers.
- evv 11y agoI see you conveniently forgot to label the y-axis. If you don't want to tell us the scale, could you at least mention what the unit is? Daily actives on GL.com? Regardless, this is majorly exciting and this growth is a tremendous leap for the open source community.
- Goronmon 11y agoI don't think he forgot. I think that's just a cropped screenshot of a larger graph.
- sytse 11y agoI didn't forget that :) Anyway, here is a new one with all the axis shown, I guess it will not cause any problems. This is GitLab.com (the SaaS) and about.gitlab.com (our static website) combined http://i.imgur.com/HzaqlAN.png http://i.imgur.com/HzaqlAN.png